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Concordia Oaks and Swamp / Bur Hybrids

I'm not sure what's going on with my Concordia. They are the slowest growing of all the hybrids I have. Whether bare root or started from acorns. Also have had the highest mortality rate. 🤔
 
I'm not sure what's going on with my Concordia. They are the slowest growing of all the hybrids I have. Whether bare root or started from acorns. Also have had the highest mortality rate. 🤔
I've noticed the same thing with the Concordias I planted. I ordered a pile of them the first year MDC offered them. After a couple years I started to think they were a bust at my Southern Wisconsin location. I started pulling cages off some of them to use on more promising trees. It seemed to take 5 years before they really started to put on meaningful growth. The last 3 years or so they've done great. Almost all have started producing acrons. This summer I was looking for and finding the Concordias I had given up on and re caging them. Time well spent.
 
HUGE acorn crop this year at my place at the lake. I got about six or eight huge Burr Oaks that may be 150 years old. Tough trees that stand up to big storms that come across the lake. Great crop of large acorns this yeas...they are everywhere. I'm thinking I should collect these acorns and heel stomp them into the soil at Deertopia. any suggestions on doing so? Better to wait till spring. TIA I could get thousands in a few hours.

This is the last chance to collect these acorns....as we have sold this place and will downsize to another place about ten miles away. Been a great place to live....but it is time. Good decision on our move.....if not a bit painful too.
 
Foggy white oaks will send down a root in the fall with moisture.
 
HUGE acorn crop this year at my place at the lake. I got about six or eight huge Burr Oaks that may be 150 years old. Tough trees that stand up to big storms that come across the lake. Great crop of large acorns this yeas...they are everywhere. I'm thinking I should collect these acorns and heel stomp them into the soil at Deertopia. any suggestions on doing so? Better to wait till spring. TIA I could get thousands in a few hours.

This is the last chance to collect these acorns....as we have sold this place and will downsize to another place about ten miles away. Been a great place to live....but it is time. Good decision on our move.....if not a bit painful too.
Did you ever get around to this?
 
The Concordia I got were acorns.

They are not a jack and the bean stalk deal, but man do they look happy/ healthy!
 
Concordia have done pretty well for me also I ordered 50 more Concordia and 50 more nuttall oak for this spring to replace other trees I’ve lost that didn’t like my site.
 
Did you ever get around to this?
No.....just too many irons in the fire this year. I did that some years back, but that was with white oak acorns from southern MN. Not sure I got any results from that. Was a shot in the dark.

I do see the DNR collectiing Burr Oak acorns at a golf course where I play in Nisswa. They have some trees that really put out the nuts too. I am not certain what the DNR does with them or how they might plant 'em. Forgot to ask. Some guys I play with say they come every year to collect acorns. (and I am too dumb to ask what they do with 'em. ). A golf course is a good place to get those acorns.

Maybe someone here has some methods to get good results?? I do remember about floating 'em in water and freezing them to stratify.....but I forgot what I learned in my efforts.....which may have been 12 years ago.
 
Foggy white oaks will send down a root in the fall with moisture.
Yeah.....but I am a bit too far north for White Oak survival. (from what I know). Burr Oak are best suited here. Red oak too....but not as tasty to the deer. I get good natural regen from burr oak <---my favorite method. lol
 
No.....just too many irons in the fire this year. I did that some years back, but that was with white oak acorns from southern MN. Not sure I got any results from that. Was a shot in the dark.

I do see the DNR collectiing Burr Oak acorns at a golf course where I play in Nisswa. They have some trees that really put out the nuts too. I am not certain what the DNR does with them or how they might plant 'em. Forgot to ask. Some guys I play with say they come every year to collect acorns. (and I am too dumb to ask what they do with 'em. ). A golf course is a good place to get those acorns.

Maybe someone here has some methods to get good results?? I do remember about floating 'em in water and freezing them to stratify.....but I forgot what I learned in my efforts.....which may have been 12 years ago.
You don't want to freeze acorns/seed nuts. You want to hold them just above freezing about 32-34 degrees. A few degrees warmer and they'll start to germinate in the fridge too early for most climates.
 
I believe freezing actually suspends the stratification process.
 
I believe freezing actually suspends the stratification process.
No, it will kill the nuts, unless it's a very gentle freeze. I start a lot of acorns and chestnuts from seed, and have finally sorted through all the internet fiction. You want to store nuts 32-34. Most household fridges don't get that cold. I have a beverage fridge in my basement that you can set the temp for. It goes down to 34.
 
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