Concordia Oaks and Swamp / Bur Hybrids

The bur gambel oaks didn’t work for me in Minnesota. I’d consider trying them in Iowa/Missouri?

They are nice plugs, & I’ve bought bur oaks from them … with success. Their best tree is the common wild apple in my opinion.
 
I snagged 10 Concordia from MDC this morning. I'll plant less and try to baby these ones. As soon as the Idaho site opens I want to try the Bur-Gamble and Bur-English crosses.
 
The swamp burr oaks from Kelly’s planted as little bare roots in 2023 are doing awesome. Very high success rate for me with weed mats and 5’ tubes. Only failures I can think of are the ones that had tubes/stakes broken by deer or bears and got eaten to the ground. IMG_1245.png
 
The bur gambel oaks didn’t work for me in Minnesota. I’d consider trying them in Iowa/Missouri?

They are nice plugs, & I’ve bought bur oaks from them … with success. Their best tree is the common wild apple in my opinion.


Burr oak gamble from Idaho have failed in my woods. I am giving up on them. Plugs for oaks are worthless to me. I have had oak plugs from Itasca greenhouse and they have sucked too. Bare roots have been much better. I direct seeded some white oak a couple days ago. Hopefully those work.
 
Burr oak gamble from Idaho have failed in my woods. I am giving up on them. Plugs for oaks are worthless to me. I have had oak plugs from Itasca greenhouse and they have sucked too. Bare roots have been much better. I direct seeded some white oak a couple days ago. Hopefully those work.
Not the best luck with oak plugs ? Hmm, I’ve never had that issue (except the Bur Gambel).

I have not ordered from Itasca for many years, but I used to like their plugs …
 
So would you buy from Idaho again?
I would I don’t think there was anything wrong with their product and I wouldn’t mind trying their wild apples but I’m more in a maintenance mode now replacing trees that have died and focusing more on pears because they seem to be less maintenance in my area.
 
I can’t get through to the Idaho seedlings store.

Tried calling and e mail.
 
Pitkin Website seems to be up and running
 
I might be on the wrong thread idk I checked my bur-gambles had about 24 lining driveway several got replaced last year and about 7 dead just now when I checked I’d say I have maybe 25% of the original 24 bur-gamble plugs still alive. The dead ones will be replaced with Concordia in the spring. These trees receive nothing from me no water of any sort or even fertilizer.
 
Not the best luck with oak plugs ? Hmm, I’ve never had that issue (except the Bur Gambel).

I have not ordered from Itasca for many years, but I used to like their plugs …


I dont have much good to say about oak plugs. The first oaks I planted were SWO from Itasca. Those plugs were not great. The bareroot SWO that I have bought seem to be much better. Oaks have that big tap root and I think the plug containers mess that up.


Then again it could be cause my land is heavy clay underneath the 2-8" of topsoil. No more oak plugs for me.
 
I wonder on those plug seedlings if planting them in a 1 gallon air pruning pot for a year would help or tearing the plug open before planting would be the way to go checking that the main tap root hasn’t j rooted itself?
 
I wonder on those plug seedlings if planting them in a 1 gallon air pruning pot for a year would help or tearing the plug open before planting would be the way to go checking that the main tap root hasn’t j rooted itself?

That’s what I plan to do. Check the root that is.


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Next year I’m digging a trench to put the 3 gallon pots below ground level.
I think temperature damage to roots in pots is real.
 
Next year I’m digging a trench to put the 3 gallon pots below ground level.
I think temperature damage to roots in pots is real.
This is the first year I've used rootmakers and with intention to over-winter them. How to go about that was going to be a thread topic i planned to make.
 
I had a couple trees in 1 gallon RM pots last winter outside zone 6b they survived ok these where a Himalayan Evergreen of some sort I dug a start from last fall.
 
The Idaho seedlings store got back to me.

I canceled the oak tree orders and instead bought pinyons and blue spruce.

I think oaks need to have a viable tap root to excell on my property.
 
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