Guys, it really would be beneficial to everyone in this thread(and others) if you would post your location/the location of the seed you are trading/selling(Tap, step in here). Provenance of seed can be a HUGE deal to us guys from the north. Trees that come from seed that originates in the south could very likely struggle to survive northern winters, and for older guys, they don't have time to get a tree to 4 or 5 years old just to find out that the tree will experience winter die back every year, only to produce little to no fruit or mast due to die-off of new growth each winter. A simple note in your post like "seeds collect from western WI" or at least "Zone 4b seed" would be helpful and greatly appreciated. Even if a northern WI guy would decide to get some southern MO seeds, at least he knows going in that he may have some issues to contend with when planting seed sourced way outside his planting zone.