So for the TNM method, do you guys broadcast at a heavier seeding rate that if you were broadcasting into a disced field? I would think that having "surface seed" might result in more loss to birds or poor seed to soil contact, even though you are rolling or packing.
 
So for the TNM method, do you guys broadcast at a heavier seeding rate that if you were broadcasting into a disced field? I would think that having "surface seed" might result in more loss to birds or poor seed to soil contact, even though you are rolling or packing.
When I seed it a little more than normal how much I can't tell you exactly but it's more.
 
I seed heavy also. I couldn't say how much though, I just do it by "feel".

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The seed I buy generally has a rate for broadcast. I bought all of my seed from welterseed this year.
 
I don’t recall this in the 4 or 5 times I have read this thread but is anyone using a flail mower in this application?
 
I don’t recall this in the 4 or 5 times I have read this thread but is anyone using a flail mower in this application?
I would like to but I don't have a flail mower. I know someone who plans to make it happen but he hasn't come across the right deal yet. I think a sickle bar mower would work really well too.

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I would like to but I don't have a flail mower. I know someone who plans to make it happen but he hasn't come across the right deal yet. I think a sickle bar mower would work really well too.

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Me either. I did a portion of my destination field a week ago and I am unhappy about the distribution of material. We have had great rain and some of the windrows that I missed are molding and blocking seedlings. I have been watching some nice videos of terminating cover crops with a flail mower.
 
I would like to but I don't have a flail mower. I know someone who plans to make it happen but he hasn't come across the right deal yet. I think a sickle bar mower would work really well too.

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Me either. I did a portion of my destination field a week ago and I am unhappy about the distribution of material. We have had great rain and some of the windrows that I missed are molding and blocking seedlings. I have been watching some nice videos of terminating cover crops with a flail mower.
I'm a firm believer that thatch can be left standing and the system can still work well.

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I would like to but I don't have a flail mower. I know someone who plans to make it happen but he hasn't come across the right deal yet. I think a sickle bar mower would work really well too.

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I might pick one up if the price is right, I always thought a sickle mower would work good.
 
I don’t recall this in the 4 or 5 times I have read this thread but is anyone using a flail mower in this application?
I don't think it's required for throw and mow to be successful, but if you have other needs (trail mowing, field mowing, lawn mowing) it can be a valuable tight quarters tool. We really need to consider changing the name of throw and mow because it's starting to evolve past mowing as others have said.

I've got a plot started now where I just broadcasted rye and leaf-blowered ladino clover and rape into standing mature 6' sedge grass and pressed it down with a mini-excavator. It ain't ready for pictures yet, but it is looking very promising. If i could have hit it with my roller (of which I have no means to pull yet) this concept could have really shined. It's a unique challenge to food plot in spots that look like this after the snow melts. With a little thinking under the water, it can be done.

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One of my Throw &Roll brassica patches. It’s really popped with the last couple weeks of rain.

Do you think the bald spots will fill in? It’s going to get some rye either way...
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One of my Throw &Roll brassica patches. It’s really popped with the last couple weeks of rain.

Do you think the bald spots will fill in? It’s going to get some rye either way...
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I would say most of it will fill in maybe back left in the pick will not. Looks good!
 
I don't think it's required for throw and mow to be successful, but if you have other needs (trail mowing, field mowing, lawn mowing) it can be a valuable tight quarters tool. We really need to consider changing the name of throw and mow because it's starting to evolve past mowing as others have said.

I've got a plot started now where I just broadcasted rye and leaf-blowered ladino clover and rape into standing mature 6' sedge grass and pressed it down with a mini-excavator. It ain't ready for pictures yet, but it is looking very promising. If i could have hit it with my roller (of which I have no means to pull yet) this concept could have really shined. It's a unique challenge to food plot in spots that look like this after the snow melts. With a little thinking under the water, it can be done.

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SD you could almost stock that food Pond.

Maybe we just start calling it No till.


You are right it’s not required. I have had plenty of TNM success using a rotary cutter. A chunk of what I do in plots is my destination field and that is getting more and more fruit trees every year. I like the ideal of a more even distribution of the vegetation and a flail would help around all the tree cages. My other plots I also have some tight quarters and moving that rotary cutter around with a bucket on is sometimes a pain.

It’s always nice to have another tool in one’s belt.
 
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Did a portion of my destination field a week ago in kale, Radish, turnip, medium red, Winfred Brassica, and rutabaga. Spot checking the field looks like I have pretty good germination already. I’ll overseed with WR when I plant the Grain section over Labor Day.
 
Swiffy if it was mine, I'd be temped to throw in another few ounces to help fill it in, but if not the rye will sure help too. Looks like enough "spots" that are thin that could benefit from some seed.
 
Swiffy if it was mine, I'd be temped to throw in another few ounces to help fill it in, but if not the rye will sure help too. Looks like enough "spots" that are thin that could benefit from some seed.
Thanks, Ive already seeded it twice. Finally had some decent rainfalls. At this point I think ill hammer it with Rye to connect the dots.
 
Hey folks, I have a quick question for you as this will be my first attempt at this.

My plots are all killed and ready to sowed/mowed.

We just had two days of light rain, so the ground is pretty moist. The forecast was extremely unpredictable and there was no way to tell whether or not these pop-up storms would actually hit, so I chose not to gamble and decided to wait until a more dependable time.

Now it seems we will have consistently light rain all week, as in, a chance to rain 4-5 of 7 days.

Here are my questions:

This rain has left the grass pretty wet.

Does the Dead grass need to be dry completely before I mow in order to shake the seed down to the ground? Or does that matter at all?

Since I know it will probably rain this week, should I go ahead and sow my seed now and just wait for the grass to be dry before I mow it, or should I not do that since birds will have better access and the seeds will not be covered by thatch for possibly a couple days before it is dry and I am able to mow?

My initial thought is that sowing seed onto ground without mowing might invite birds or compromise seed vitality, but if it keeps drizzling the rain will go ahead and get some of the seed started so it’s kind of a catch-22.

Any thoughts are appreciated.
 
Hey folks, I have a quick question for you as this will be my first attempt at this.

My plots are all killed and ready to sowed/mowed.

We just had two days of light rain, so the ground is pretty moist. The forecast was extremely unpredictable and there was no way to tell whether or not these pop-up storms would actually hit, so I chose not to gamble and decided to wait until a more dependable time.

Now it seems we will have consistently light rain all week, as in, a chance to rain 4-5 of 7 days.

Here are my questions:

This rain has left the grass pretty wet.

Does the Dead grass need to be dry completely before I mow in order to shake the seed down to the ground? Or does that matter at all?

Since I know it will probably rain this week, should I go ahead and sow my seed now and just wait for the grass to be dry before I mow it, or should I not do that since birds will have better access and the seeds will not be covered by thatch for possibly a couple days before it is dry and I am able to mow?

My initial thought is that sowing seed onto ground without mowing might invite birds or compromise seed vitality, but if it keeps drizzling the rain will go ahead and get some of the seed started so it’s kind of a catch-22.

Any thoughts are appreciated.
Broadcast your seed and mow I wouldn't worry whether the grass was dry or wet. Driving over it will help seed to soil contact.
 
I put down an acre of clover with triticale over top. had the boys with me (5 and 7), then had them run the ranger over everything with the cultipacker. They hit everything, but not in a very systematic way. At one point, the oldest had the wheel turned as hard as he could and was running tight circles in the middle of the field. LOL

Had a great weekend.

Even got to try out my new disc where I'd had my failed beets plot.Turned things over pretty nice.
 

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also, my 12 day old tubers are coming up nicely in a t&m field I'd planted earlier.
 

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