They are good in my immediate area, but from what I've heard they are way down everywhere else up there. My immediate area seems to hold deer, we have a lot of hayfields to feed the deer plus my food plots draw them in. Also most of the neighbors show trigger control. This will be year 3 that I've had the property and it keeps improving. Going to do some major hinge cutting this year and I have a logger coming next week to look at clear cutting around 15-20 acres. If he can do it this winter, I'll be putting in a couple thousand Norway spruce. I've had good bucks every year on camera and have seen several, just haven't connected yet with a big boy. Shot a 8 pointer this year and last year.