omicron1792
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This is a mix similar to what we have been talking about here. This mix has a high percentage of Forbs and not just grasses. It is burned on a two-year interval.
Steep hill native grass
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CooterBrown
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the pretty prairie short grass doesn't appear to have any forbs.
CooterBrown
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got any summer pics?
omicron1792
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My man. The mix is full of forbs. Partridge pea is probably the dominant forb in our region.
omicron1792
5 year old buck +
once established you can add more forbs if you want, tic trefoil, beggars lice are two of my favorite. I also love rattlesnake master.
Forb is the nice word for weed. Any non grass is a forb.
Most forbs will come naturally. When you mow, disc, and burn will either favor more forbs or grass over time.
omicron1792
5 year old buck +
The pic above has some lespedeza in it also. It is a great forb, but can become invasive and take over. If going to use disturbance and herbicides it’s great. If not I would avoid.
Bowsnbucks
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If you'd like another seed source to compare - look into Ernst Seed Company. They have seed for many areas of the U.S. They have seed combinations for just about any soil & climate, slopes, upland, wet areas, dry mesic sites, etc. Our camp bought a great mix of upland pollinator native flowers, forbs, etc. They'll even custom mix what you want. (NOTE: all such seed is harvested by hand. No equipment can harvest such tiny, delicate seeds as exist in some species.)
Just another seed source for comparison.
Just another seed source for comparison.
omicron1792
5 year old buck +
Hey cooter.
Here is a video someone posted on switchgrass. Note that switchgrass is BY FAR the easiest native grass to establish. I think the video covers a lot of what I’m saying. Simazine is great for establishing most native grasses except Indian grass. It is not good for establishing forbs. Imazapic is much better for that, but not good for switchgrass. It is good for most other native grasses though.
Tricks To Frost Seeding Switchgrass
Switchgrass can be a big challenge to get established so get started this year by frost seeding it where you want it on your property. It's great for screen...
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CooterBrown
5 year old buck +
We never have snow down here and rarely is it colder than 32 deg.Hey cooter.
Here is a video someone posted on switchgrass. Note that switchgrass is BY FAR the easiest native grass to establish. I think the video covers a lot of what I’m saying. Simazine is great for establishing most native grasses except Indian grass. It is not good for establishing forbs. Imazapic is much better for that, but not good for switchgrass. It is good for most other native grasses though.
Tricks To Frost Seeding Switchgrass
Switchgrass can be a big challenge to get established so get started this year by frost seeding it where you want it on your property. It's great for screen...
omicron1792
5 year old buck +
I’m confused. I live in alabama too.
I’m letting you know you can’t just throw native grass seed with no herbicide and expect results.
I’m letting you know you can’t just throw native grass seed with no herbicide and expect results.
CooterBrown
5 year old buck +
I didnt think you could frost seed in the deep south.
omicron1792
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You can, it is more about the wetness than cold for the stratification though. I often drill it early so it has longer in the ground to “soften up.”
CooterBrown
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Wish i had a drill
CooterBrown
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What part of alabama do you live in?
omicron1792
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I live in Birmingham but my farm is in Perry county
CooterBrown
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Nice I'm in choctaw not to far away from ya
CooterBrown
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What drill do you use?
omicron1792
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My farm is in the black belt, but is really more foot of the Appalachian mountains. No black dirt for me! Lots of hills, sand, and clayish loam.
Not trying to be a no it all about native grass. Just trying to save you some heartache like I had. I threw a bunch out several years ago with no prep or anything. It was a total bust. I find now if I spray gly and imazapic (or simazine/atrazine if just doing switch) at the time of planting I get much much better results. And on a hill using a nurse crop like browntop Millet or oats at lower rate really helps with erosion.
I took this pic at my farm yesterday thinking of this convo. Another option is plant and put hay on top or a hay grass erosion roll. You can see how much better the germination has been under the roll of hay.
omicron1792
5 year old buck +
I bought a landpride 3p600. I love it
CooterBrown
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Looks nice. Yeah ive heard thats a good drill.
