With all the trouble John was having with the new version of vBulletin, I was going to ask if he had checked out any other "forum" software such as this. I have never used xenForo, but from what I understand the guys who wrote the "best" version of vBulletin are the guys who designed this software. The other choice would have been for John to use an older version of the vBulletin software, like maybe Version 3.6.8, it was probably one of the best releases of their software. vBulletin makes great forum software, but they are notorious for releasing super buggy software updates and then fixing them after a bunch of people start complaining about what isn't working.