hillrunner
5 year old buck +
Ugh, I don't think I could handle an outfitter for a neighbor. I don't envy that situation.
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Troubles Trees
5 year old buck +
The answer to this varies much from state to state, here in NY to legally post your property you have to have a posted sign no more than 660' apart and the law reads:
"At least one sign must be set on each side of the protected area and on each side of all corners that can be reasonably identified. Signs shall be no more than 660 feet apart, set close to or along the boundaries of the protected area. The signs must be conspicuous - they should be high enough, and spaced closely enough to be seen. Illegible or missing signs must be replaced at least once a year."
Looking up Ohio laws it only states:
"Should you post “no trespassing” and “warning” signs?
Yes. Signs can help deter trespassers by establishing clear
boundary lines and can also warn trespassers about those
dangerous conditions that you know could harm them.
Under Ohio law, a landowner should post “no trespassing”
signs “in a manner reasonably calculated to come to the
attention of potential intruders.” In other words, “no
trespassing” or similar warning signs should be easy to see
and read from a distance. Landowners should post signs in
places where trespassers might enter the property and post
warning signs where they provide sufficient notice about
dangerous conditions on the property."
Hope that helps bud, congrats on the new property!!
"At least one sign must be set on each side of the protected area and on each side of all corners that can be reasonably identified. Signs shall be no more than 660 feet apart, set close to or along the boundaries of the protected area. The signs must be conspicuous - they should be high enough, and spaced closely enough to be seen. Illegible or missing signs must be replaced at least once a year."
Looking up Ohio laws it only states:
"Should you post “no trespassing” and “warning” signs?
Yes. Signs can help deter trespassers by establishing clear
boundary lines and can also warn trespassers about those
dangerous conditions that you know could harm them.
Under Ohio law, a landowner should post “no trespassing”
signs “in a manner reasonably calculated to come to the
attention of potential intruders.” In other words, “no
trespassing” or similar warning signs should be easy to see
and read from a distance. Landowners should post signs in
places where trespassers might enter the property and post
warning signs where they provide sufficient notice about
dangerous conditions on the property."
Hope that helps bud, congrats on the new property!!
MadMadHoosier
5 year old buck +
My adjacent Kentucky landowners are good for the most part, so I only post along the roadway and one 600 yard long property line. That neighbor leases his land to some guys from SC who were initially, and possibly still, selling hunts. Their weekly fresh crew of hunters were "accidentally" wandering onto my property too often. After escorting a guy with a ground blind off my property a few years ago, I made it clear to all involved the next encounter would include the law. Besides a mix of tyvek and some new aluminum posted signs stapled to a tree every 10 yards or so, I pounded a T-post along the property line every 50 yards and freshly paint the top of them orange annually. It seemed to work unit this year, when a trail cam captured a trespasser well onto my property. To be honest, I cannot be sure that trespasser came from that property line, but it's my best guess. I did try to lease the property myself, but SC is paying way too much for me to match, and the owner is not interested in selling. He is older than me, so perhaps someday. Finally, I would fence that line, but it is located along a creek that floods 5-8' high in the area, so a fence would take a lot of damage from driftwood.
Might steal the idea of putting my aluminum signs on a piece of plywood, as that sounds like it would ease the annual maintenance somewhat.
Might steal the idea of putting my aluminum signs on a piece of plywood, as that sounds like it would ease the annual maintenance somewhat.
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I use Voss signs heavy plastic signs. They aren’t cheap but they’re self supporting and don’t require a backer board. They even hang on skinny wooden fence posts.
https://vosssigns.com/product/12-x-12-self-supporting-premium-posted-signs/
https://vosssigns.com/product/12-x-12-self-supporting-premium-posted-signs/
Wind Gypsy
5 year old buck +
Are you doing barbed wire for demarcation or full on Don Higgins high fence?
Buckly
5 year old buck +
Substantial cost and effort are now required. LOL. Welcome to the club.
Howboutthemdawgs
5 year old buck +
Demarcation…with maybe the ability to deter some movement. Well at least make them put in some effort to run a doe across the line. Plan right now is 4’ mesh with one strand of wire but I may see about 5’ mesh with a wire strand. I don’t want to get to where the lines are blurred with high or low.
omicron1792
5 year old buck +
That’s what I have. Painted line with interspersed tape
b116757
5 year old buck +
I personally am not a big fan of woven wire but it’s purely from a maintenance standpoint anyplace on the farms we have had old woven wire that has gotten away over the years with brush and trees grown up in it is a nightmare. Now if you’re committed to a spraying program for fence maintenance then woven wire certainly has some advantages but unless your building a true high fence I’m not sure it is really worth the added expense over barbed wire. For a simple demarcation line I’d consider a single run of 7 strand 3/8” galvanized guy wire, maintenance would be near nonexistent and last for many many decades with no question where the property lines are.
Howboutthemdawgs
5 year old buck +
So almost 100% of this fence will be in the woods. So I don’t really need to worry about vegetation growing up around the fence. But my main motivation for wire is to keep dogs out. I have a neighbor who coon hunts. Good guy and tries to keep his dogs where they belong, but dogs being dogs, they don’t always cooperate as evidenced by my cameras. I feel the wire to provide a little more security but maybe it’s just perception.
b116757
5 year old buck +
If you constantly have neighbor dog problems then woven maybe the best choice for your hunting property but for a coon hunter running dogs a couple times a year I likely wouldn’t even care myself let him thin out the coon population eating all my deer corn.
b116757
5 year old buck +
A single run of 7 strand guy wire would laugh at driftwood and mark the property line clearly even in the worst of locations spanning overhead. I have a 1/2 mile creek bottom property line that when I get around to having it surveyed may likely get the guy wire boundary installed. Neither me or the neighbor run cattle along that line so simply knowing where the line is located is enough.
Howboutthemdawgs
5 year old buck +
Totally. And I’m letting him but when I want it. Giving him all of January-end of March. Just don’t love it early November!If you constantly have neighbor dog problems then woven maybe the best choice for your hunting property but for a coon hunter running dogs a couple times a year I likely wouldn’t even care myself let him thin out the coon population eating all my deer corn.
yoderjac
5 year old buck +
In a state where they allow dog hunting for deer, I've looked hard at an exclusion fence for dogs, but I just can't justify the price. The need has dropped as dog hunting is dying out slowly in our area. As I was looking at this, I began to consider the impact on deer. A 5' fence is enough to keep most dogs out. Woven wire holes may not be small enough to stop small beagles. If an adult deer can see through the fence to the other side, 5' won't deter them from crossing. So, my first thought was that when dogs are running deer in the area, the deer would eventually learn to jump inside where they are not pursued.
As I further thought about it, I became concerned about fawns that can't jump it. I wonder, with good nutrition inside the fence and poor outside, what impact it might have on social dynamics.
Cost ended up being a prohibiting factor so I stopped exploring the idea.
Howboutthemdawgs
5 year old buck +
It’s definitely not cheap. And trust me I’ve thought a lot about that part of it. I can’t promise I’ll keep this farm for a long time so I don’t know the ROI on a fence. I know I would love to buy a property that was better than half fenced but I’m not sure I’d pay a premium for it.
I have one border that I had to post, the other ones I have no trouble with. I used the aluminum nails with the rubber/plastic washer thing. But, I am not going to be harvesting trees that are right on the property line. I posted a bunch of the yellow no trespassing signs and between them I used a purple plastic tape that says no trespassing either on trees or on the old fence.
I had a guy from over there looking for a deer last year on me and when i confronted him he was saying he didn’t know where the line was in that area. He must be blind. When it comes to hunting in Ohio, you have to have written permission to hunt or retrieve game on someone else’s land. It’s your responsibility to know where the line is and verbal permission isn’t good enough if the game warden wants to push it.
There was discussion a few years ago about a purple paint law but the bill never went anywhere as far as i know.
I had a guy from over there looking for a deer last year on me and when i confronted him he was saying he didn’t know where the line was in that area. He must be blind. When it comes to hunting in Ohio, you have to have written permission to hunt or retrieve game on someone else’s land. It’s your responsibility to know where the line is and verbal permission isn’t good enough if the game warden wants to push it.
There was discussion a few years ago about a purple paint law but the bill never went anywhere as far as i know.
