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New Missouri Deer Regs?

Yes but what I’m saying is if you were shown a graph that said deer densities on chattahooche NF was 20 per sqmi in the 80’s and then you show this decline to around 5 today and then throw in a positive result somewhere in that vicinity and let the conclusions flow. When the reality is the landscape went to hell in a hand basket over that period.
Now I have no clue if that’s the case in nw ark (not exactly a deer habitat hotspot I assume) but are the deer declining because of cwd or coincidentally with it.
 
Yes but what I’m saying is if you were shown a graph that said deer densities on chattahooche NF was 20 per sqmi in the 80’s and then you show this decline to around 5 today and then throw in a positive result somewhere in that vicinity and let the conclusions flow. When the reality is the landscape went to hell in a hand basket over that period.
Now I have no clue if that’s the case in nw ark (not exactly a deer habitat hotspot I assume) but are the deer declining because of cwd or coincidentally with it.
Because of. They were doing well up until ten years ago. The ozarks are nothing like the north ga mts. The ozarks are flat top limestone mountains. North GA is more like the more sterile Ouachita mountains of western AR

The northwest corner of AR very similar to the SW corner of MO - with deer density equal or better than northern MO - used to be😎
 
We used to vacation in NW Arkansas during the 80's. Deer were like a nuisance up there. They were everywhere.
 
The general layman’s consensus was it came in with the elk many years ago. It is difficult to deny that since the biggest hot spot was where the original elk herd was started

Do as we say, not as we do. Most CWD states don't allow the movement of carcasses out of the county in some cases, across state lines in most. Yet, they haul cervids such as elk all over the place to reintroduce.
 
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The northwest corner of AR very similar to the SW corner of MO - with deer density equal or better than northern MO - used to be😎
Our cabin property is in SW MO, and I agree that the two have lots of similarities. A deer biologist friend has property on both sides of the AR/MO border and has strong options about how the states are managed (with MO scoring much higher, in what I could consider to be an informed opinion as a biologist, deer hunter and landowner). He has family 50 miles south of the state line (near Jasper) that no longer have deer on their property due to CWD. One of the early keys to management of CWD is adequate sampling based on a finite budget, which is the goal of the updated regulations.
 
Do as we say, not as we do. Most CWD states don't allow the movement of carcasses out of the county in some cases, across state lines in most. Yet, they haul cervids such as elk all over the place to reintroduce.

The elk relocation was in the early 80’s - way before the big deal about cwd
 
I don’t know anyone there, but if the 5 deer per square mile is accurate, deer hunting is over.
Im missing something ? Missouri is shooting for 5 deer per square mile ?

How ?

Right now I see a deer on camera in Missouri about every 2 hours. It’s high deer density .
 
Im missing something ? Missouri is shooting for 5 deer per square mile ?

How ?

Right now I see a deer on camera in Missouri about every 2 hours. It’s high deer density .
No, the 5 deer per square mile is how many deer are left in northwest Arkansas in a bad cwd area. It appears that cwd is why the deer numbers crashed there as it happened fairly quickly once the positive rate was exceeded 30%.
 
No, the 5 deer per square mile is how many deer are left in northwest Arkansas in a bad cwd area. It appears that cwd is why the deer numbers crashed there as it happened fairly quickly once the positive rate was exceeded 30%.
You wonder what would have happened if, instead of putting regulations in place making it easier to kill more deer - if they had left regulations alone or more restrictive.
 
Yes, it seems like shooting any does is a bad idea if cwd is killing a pile of deer.
 
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Open Letter from MDC Director Jason Sumners on CWD

As a young boy growing up in rural Missouri, many days were spent outdoors enjoying wild places and wild critters. At a young age, I became fascinated with the graceful ghost of our forest, the white-tailed deer. This fascination fueled a life-long pursuit to learn everything I could about this iconic species. After graduating high school, the decision to align this passion with career pursuits was natural. It turned from an outsized fascination to a professional pursuit that led me on a decades long journey studying and researching white-tailed deer management across the southern U.S., eventually leading to an opportunity to “come home” and serve as the private-lands deer biologist for the Missouri Department of Conservation. This was truly a dream come true for a small-town country kid with a passion for deer management and conservation of our natural resources.
The dream would turn to dread in February 2010 when chronic wasting disease (CWD) was first detected in our state. By that time, CWD had been known to occur in eastern Colorado and Wyoming since the 1960s and was slowly spreading east across the great plains. It had been detected in Wisconsin and Illinois eight years earlier. Long-term studies of CWD on mule deer populations in the west were beginning to show the destructive impacts on those herds. Research over the last 20 years has continued to demonstrate that, if left unmanaged, CWD will increase in prevalence and distribution leading to increased mortality in deer populations.
As with many diseases, early detection and aggressive management have the greatest impact on the future distribution of the disease. So we embarked on an aggressive strategy to minimize the likelihood of spreading the disease within Missouri (i.e., increased safeguards for the importation of captive deer from outside of Missouri and carcass movement restrictions). Using science to inform management actions, we liberalized local harvest opportunities, prohibited the use of feed and minerals that unnaturally concentrate deer, and implemented localized targeted removals in an effort to minimize the number of infected deer on the landscape (a strategy that Illinois had utilized with measurable success).
Aggressive management actions implemented by cooperating hunters, landowners, and agency staff over the last decade have been successful in slowing the number of infected deer on our state’s landscape. Unfortunately, CWD has continued to be introduced to new parts of the state and spread where it was previously detected.
Some will say CWD is simply a political disease that has not impacted deer populations, but this couldn’t be farther from the truth. Scientific studies have continued to demonstrate that CWD is a fatal disease that, if left unchecked, will increase in prevalence resulting in increased mortality on local populations that significantly alter buck age structure and the ability of the population to recover from other natural factors like extreme droughts and other disease outbreaks like EHD. Others recognize that CWD is a serious threat but disagree with the approach we have implemented to address the disease.
Regardless of where you stand on the issue of CWD, most share the same goal—a healthy sustainable population of deer in Missouri that can be appreciated and utilized by future generations. I certainly hope that my son (and hopefully grandchildren one day) will continue to have the opportunity to utilize and appreciate a healthy and thriving deer population into the future. The white-tailed deer is the heartbeat of Missouri’s wild places—familiar, resilient, and woven into our outdoor heritage. It is also a symbol of the success of wildlife conservation and restoration across North America.
The Missouri Conservation Commission, and subsequently the Missouri Department of Conservation, were created by the citizens of Missouri to restore and manage our valuable fish, forest, and wildlife resources. There is no species more emblematic of this conservation success than the white-tailed deer.
As CWD has spread in Missouri over the last decade, MDC’s objective has been and continues to be to keep CWD infection rates low to protect the long-term health of the deer herd. This extensive undertaking can only be accomplished by working collaboratively with hunters and landowners to achieve both surveillance and management goals. MDC has continued to work with hunters and landowners to adapt the management tools, including creating CWD management permits and simplifying regulations. Last year, we piloted the Hunter Harvest Initiative to encourage additional deer harvest during deer season to alleviate the need for post-season targeted removal.
We remain committed to keeping our deer herd heathy and working collaboratively with the hunters and landowners that are critical to our conservation mission. We cannot be successful in this work, and at the scale needed, without hunters’ and landowners’ support and participation.
At this time, MDC will be pausing our post-season targeted removal efforts to work with hunters and landowners to adapt and identify a more sustainable path forward.
Future generations of Missourians are counting on us to work together to sustain the future of one of our great state’s most important natural resources. Together, we can preserve the health of the herd and the future of hunting; divided, we may lose it.
We are committed to continuing our engagement with hunters, landowners, and Missourians on this hard work ahead. Feel free to send your thoughts to CWDFeedback@mdc.mo.gov.
In gratitude,

Jason Sumners

Director, Missouri Department



 
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Open Letter from MDC Director Jason Sumners on CWD

As a young boy growing up in rural Missouri, many days were spent outdoors enjoying wild places and wild critters. At a young age, I became fascinated with the graceful ghost of our forest, the white-tailed deer. This fascination fueled a life-long pursuit to learn everything I could about this iconic species. After graduating high school, the decision to align this passion with career pursuits was natural. It turned from an outsized fascination to a professional pursuit that led me on a decades long journey studying and researching white-tailed deer management across the southern U.S., eventually leading to an opportunity to “come home” and serve as the private-lands deer biologist for the Missouri Department of Conservation. This was truly a dream come true for a small-town country kid with a passion for deer management and conservation of our natural resources.
The dream would turn to dread in February 2010 when chronic wasting disease (CWD) was first detected in our state. By that time, CWD had been known to occur in eastern Colorado and Wyoming since the 1960s and was slowly spreading east across the great plains. It had been detected in Wisconsin and Illinois eight years earlier. Long-term studies of CWD on mule deer populations in the west were beginning to show the destructive impacts on those herds. Research over the last 20 years has continued to demonstrate that, if left unmanaged, CWD will increase in prevalence and distribution leading to increased mortality in deer populations.
As with many diseases, early detection and aggressive management have the greatest impact on the future distribution of the disease. So we embarked on an aggressive strategy to minimize the likelihood of spreading the disease within Missouri (i.e., increased safeguards for the importation of captive deer from outside of Missouri and carcass movement restrictions). Using science to inform management actions, we liberalized local harvest opportunities, prohibited the use of feed and minerals that unnaturally concentrate deer, and implemented localized targeted removals in an effort to minimize the number of infected deer on the landscape (a strategy that Illinois had utilized with measurable success).
Aggressive management actions implemented by cooperating hunters, landowners, and agency staff over the last decade have been successful in slowing the number of infected deer on our state’s landscape. Unfortunately, CWD has continued to be introduced to new parts of the state and spread where it was previously detected.
Some will say CWD is simply a political disease that has not impacted deer populations, but this couldn’t be farther from the truth. Scientific studies have continued to demonstrate that CWD is a fatal disease that, if left unchecked, will increase in prevalence resulting in increased mortality on local populations that significantly alter buck age structure and the ability of the population to recover from other natural factors like extreme droughts and other disease outbreaks like EHD. Others recognize that CWD is a serious threat but disagree with the approach we have implemented to address the disease.
Regardless of where you stand on the issue of CWD, most share the same goal—a healthy sustainable population of deer in Missouri that can be appreciated and utilized by future generations. I certainly hope that my son (and hopefully grandchildren one day) will continue to have the opportunity to utilize and appreciate a healthy and thriving deer population into the future. The white-tailed deer is the heartbeat of Missouri’s wild places—familiar, resilient, and woven into our outdoor heritage. It is also a symbol of the success of wildlife conservation and restoration across North America.
The Missouri Conservation Commission, and subsequently the Missouri Department of Conservation, were created by the citizens of Missouri to restore and manage our valuable fish, forest, and wildlife resources. There is no species more emblematic of this conservation success than the white-tailed deer.
As CWD has spread in Missouri over the last decade, MDC’s objective has been and continues to be to keep CWD infection rates low to protect the long-term health of the deer herd. This extensive undertaking can only be accomplished by working collaboratively with hunters and landowners to achieve both surveillance and management goals. MDC has continued to work with hunters and landowners to adapt the management tools, including creating CWD management permits and simplifying regulations. Last year, we piloted the Hunter Harvest Initiative to encourage additional deer harvest during deer season to alleviate the need for post-season targeted removal.
We remain committed to keeping our deer herd heathy and working collaboratively with the hunters and landowners that are critical to our conservation mission. We cannot be successful in this work, and at the scale needed, without hunters’ and landowners’ support and participation.
At this time, MDC will be pausing our post-season targeted removal efforts to work with hunters and landowners to adapt and identify a more sustainable path forward.
Future generations of Missourians are counting on us to work together to sustain the future of one of our great state’s most important natural resources. Together, we can preserve the health of the herd and the future of hunting; divided, we may lose it.
We are committed to continuing our engagement with hunters, landowners, and Missourians on this hard work ahead. Feel free to send your thoughts to CWDFeedback@mdc.mo.gov.
In gratitude,

Jason Sumners

Director, Missouri Department




A strategy the Illinois had used with measurable affect and also positive effects in MO.

So why are they choosing to get away from that?
 
SwampCat, based on my conversation with the director, the goal is to bring strongly opinionated hunters in closer alignment. MO hunters have voiced concerns over the complexity of the CWD zone regulations, which had different seasons and/or regs (such as APR). Others were concerned the state had "too many firearms days" with the CWD extension making rifle season a 15 day rut-fest. The proposed rules provide the state with flexibility in testing/monitoring, while returning rifle season to 10 days. The proposed rules change aligns acreage for CWD tags to that of landowner tags (20 acres, from 5).

While I liked the APR (which was in place at our SW MO cabin property) and CWD extended season (which was in place at our NW MO home property), I know that the current CWD and APR regulations have caused many of my neighbors confusion.
 
You wonder what would have happened if, instead of putting regulations in place making it easier to kill more deer - if they had left regulations alone or more restrictive.

We'd still have good bucks. for one. I'm not smart enough to know how the overall herd health would be, but I'm not sure anybody else does either.
 
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