New grafts care

[jwill1776]

I plan on putting my new grafts in the ground this weekend, my question is should I spray the new grafts like I would established trees? I usually start spaying my established trees with Captan about now.

 

[aerospacefarmer]

wow you are brave to put them out so early especially in MN but I start spraying mine as soon as I put them in as part of my normal spray program. I wont put my grafted trees out until late May or early June. I am in PA and at that time the chance of low temps should be over which could be a problem for that tender new growth

 

[jwill1776]

After this weekend the forecasted lows are about 40 degrees for the next 10 days. USDA historical data for my location says past May 1st there is less than a 10% change of a freeze. Will check the forecast again before I plant them.

 

[aerospacefarmer]

Good luck . I have all mine in rootrappers now and they are in my garage. I will begin taking them out for some sun but then can put them back in if its going to get too cold. I can then selectively choose the ones furthest along to go ahead and plant and will do this throughout the summer. I have 45 currently in rootrappers and another 6 or 7 still in a Lowes 5 gallon paint bucket in peat. Will need to plant a few of the ones in trappers as I am out of bags :(

 

[Spur]

Swing over to my house and you can use as many as you want Paul.

 

[aerospacefarmer]

Thanks Spur but having some graft die off so I think I may have enough now sad to say. I think about 7 grafts got replant shock when I put them in rootrappers

 

[Spur]

Did you keep them in too moist of soil? I lost a few like that.

 

[aerospacefarmer]

Yes they were didn't have a problem until I replanted and it happened in a day

 

[jwill1776]

Yes they were didn't have a problem until I replanted and it happened in a day

Wow, I’m still learning on this new grafting stuff, seems like a successful graft is only a little part of this whole equation.

 

[aerospacefarmer]

They may have gotten too much sun or I compressed roots. I don't know but it's painful lol. I did them in shade and they weren't exposed long but still 3 really healthy looking grafts started to wilt almost immediately

 

[Turkey Creek]

They may have gotten too much sun or I compressed roots. I don't know but it's painful lol. I did them in shade and they weren't exposed long but still 3 really healthy looking grafts started to wilt almost immediately

I am not saying it is right or wrong. However, letting them get to the stage of having as much growth as some of you guys do before planting always concerns me. I dont like to see leaves on mine prior to planting, green tips yes, leaves no.

 

[aerospacefarmer]

I am not saying it is right or wrong. However, letting them get to the stage of having as much growth as some of you guys do before planting always concerns me. I dont like to see leaves on mine prior to planting, green tips yes, leaves no.

Turkey

Could be the problem for sure but timing and temperatures dictate when I put them in rootrappers. Maybe next year they go directly into rootrappers after grafting in my basement. I think the shock to the roots is the issue here now as some of the roots are tangled and some get ripped off the root when separating them

 

[CrazyEd]

I am going to try and get all of my new grafts moved to the my nursery/garden the later part of this week. Temps look pretty moderate the next 15 days with the coldest (low of 37) being the early part of this week.

 

[chickenlittle]

I'd like to start planting mine out but probably not until next weekend.

 

[Bnhpr]

I put mine out with no growth showing, dormant may 1 in Maine. I spray nursery trees and grafts lightly, every other spraying. I plant grafts in plastic mulch. Drying out and weed competition has been my biggest challenge with grafts.


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[jwill1776]

I delayed planting mine till hopefully next weekend, forecast calling for two nights at 35 degrees. I have to travel for a few days this week so the new grafts will have to sit by a sunny window this week.

 

[aerospacefarmer]

My conundrum is getting as fresh scion as I can and not worrying about it drying out in fridge vs getting too much growth before putting in ground or in rootrappers in my garage. As I said I am going right to rootrappers next year after grafting It's a problem with the roots I believe as it seems the growth on the rootstocks are also turning brown. Looks like I will lose 13 or 14 grafts

 

[chickenlittle]

Happily, weather forecast shows I am past frost and cool/rainy for the next few days. I planted out 50+ grafted into my home nursery last night and a dozen rootstock for budding later. Have a another handful of grafts to plant tonight. The rest, 30-40, will get planted Sat night or Sunday at their final locations in my farm orchard.

 

[jwill1776]

Well my grafts are in the nursery, they looked a little tired at the end of they day from all day sun and a bit of wind, at this point they will just have to get used to it as mother nature is now in charge.

 

[jwill1776]

Woke up to a frost. Mother Nature and weather forecasters are both on my hate list at the moment.