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Has anyone that hunts North of Brainerd got any positive results to share. Two of my nieghbors that hunt near Emily are looking for a new place to go.....after 50 years in that same area. They did not see a rub or a scrape or a deer in three days.....and they spend full days on stand. Just wolves howling at night.

I told them to get closer to more people.....because there is better food near people.....and it keeps the wolves a bit farther away. Dunno......deer hunting on northern Public land is the chitz these days.
 
Has anyone that hunts North of Brainerd got any positive results to share. Two of my nieghbors that hunt near Emily are looking for a new place to go.....after 50 years in that same area. They did not see a rub or a scrape or a deer in three days.....and they spend full days on stand. Just wolves howling at night.

I told them to get closer to more people.....because there is better food near people.....and it keeps the wolves a bit farther away. Dunno......deer hunting on northern Public land is the chitz these days.
Where did the deer go that you had on camera all year? It seemed like you had some really good deer numbers recently, so if you haven't heard a ton of shooting then they still must be alive. I'm guessing the deer in your area are still there, but they are just hanging tight in cover after smelling and seeing a ton of humans out where the deer don't often see them. You might have better luck in a few days after most people go back to work and the deer don't see and hear people walking to and from stands.
 
Where did the deer go that you had on camera all year? It seemed like you had some really good deer numbers recently, so if you haven't heard a ton of shooting then they still must be alive. I'm guessing the deer in your area are still there, but they are just hanging tight in cover after smelling and seeing a ton of humans out where the deer don't often see them. You might have better luck in a few days after most people go back to work and the deer don't see and hear people walking to and from stands.
Yeah, your right, and that is two years in a row that the deer suddenly disappear when the season opens. We are fairly low-profile hunters but, no doubt, there is more activity in the woods the past few days. I know of four deer taken between our neighbors and us (an area comprising about 1000+ acres in total). Not much for shooting nearby. We did pass on a basket 6'er and another fawn.....but our sightings are way down from what they should be.

I had few deer on camera before and during the season opener weekend....thought that was odd......then from Sunday night and Monday had exactly NO deer in front of my cameras. Last night they did re-appear. I'm going out by myself tonight. We'll see.

However my reference above was really about poor numbers in the "Big Woods" of Northern MN. That used to be such good area to hunt on public land. I think we have lost most of that deer herd now to ruff winters and wolves. I'm hearing allot of grumbling about poor hunting in that North Woods.....and some folks calling it quits.
 
I told them to get closer to more people.....because there is better food near people.....and it keeps the wolves a bit farther away. Dunno......deer hunting on northern Public land is the chitz these days.

Makes sense from a deer numbers perspective. Just seems like that commonly means tiny parcels and a lot of people jamming into little spots too.

During the rut it may not matter. Had a nice 2 YO on Saturday walk directly over the top of where I dropped my pack, vest, bino harness, hat, rifle, and put on my heavy bibs, parka, harness, etc at the bottom of my tree before climbing and he didn't even twitch from my stench..
 
Around Two Harbors the deer move close to town to escape the wolves and hunting pressure. Last year my son saw several very nice bucks in people's backyards as he and his buddies went to town for lunch.
Him and his buddies were wondering why so many town deer.

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Numbers are really thin this year at my place ~50 miles north of the MN border in the NE corner, and hearing similar reports from most people in my area. I have 2 resident does + 1 this years fawn that have largely lived on/near my place since spring but other than that only 2 juvenile bucks seen so far on camera with no human presence on my place this fall. Bought + hunted this place since 2016 and numbers/age class have pretty much gotten worse year after year.

Have been able to tell numbers are down with how much fresh growth has gone unbrowsed all summer, but with a feeder going + monitoring with a cell cam it really drives it home. On the plus side this will help me save a ton of money on tree cages next spring....
 
However my reference above was really about poor numbers in the "Big Woods" of Northern MN. That used to be such good area to hunt on public land. I think we have lost most of that deer herd now to ruff winters and wolves. I'm hearing allot of grumbling about poor hunting in that North Woods.....and some folks calling it quits.
I lived in the “Big Woods” area in the 80s and 90s and the deer populations were very low. My wife is a “Big Woods” native and her brothers still live there. While 2007-13 were some great deer years that followed some major forest fires, the Big Woods has not been a go-to place for us. My wife has some small acreage south of Tower, MN that has more bear than deer, and is not a property we would pay for an out of state tag to hunt.

When I lived and hunted in the Big Woods (north of Effie) in the 80s, deer sighting were far and few between, and most harvests were the result of deer drives of 20 folks from the local bar that netted two or three deer. While we would hear stories of great bucks, I don’t recall visiting neighbors (a favorite pass-time, as the area had no TV reception back then) and seeing anything impressive on the walls—mainly basket 5, 6 & 8’s.

My brother-in-laws all live in the Big Woods areas of St. Louis and Itasca counties, and hunt with bows and firearms. They have never harvested the types of deer we share pictures of on this forum. They all dream of hunting Iowa, Missouri and Kansas. Outside of post-forest fire years, my brother-in-laws never speak of “good deer hunting.”
 
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I decided to check on the progress in my zone of 172. Last year, total harvest was 1,772 deer. You can look up your zone total in this report:


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Through today, we're at 770. Judging by how fast everyone pulled out this week, we're not going to make up the other 1,002 to stave off another double digit percentage decline in deer. You can view your zone harvest through today at:


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The Duluth News Tribune is usually good for a breakdown of harvests by major zones around this time. Every year, it seems the 100 zone keeps dropping 20%. I'm anxiously waiting to see that breakdown.
 
That is haunting. Though, I'm sure some of it is because of a negative feedback loop - discouraged hunters don't hunt quite as much. Also, the warmer than normal opening weekend probably put a dent in these numbers too.

How do these numbers compare to the 20 or 30 year average?
 

Tuesday's official field reports about opening weekend of the firearms deer season included repeated observations of scant deer sightings up north and widespread disinterest by hunters in that once-bountiful whitetail region.

Some deer camps on public land that traditionally bustled with activity were vacant, state conservation officers reported, and complaints about wolves were rampant. One officer, Hudson Ledeen of Grand Marais and Cook County, wrote that "deer-hunter success was extremely abysmal for the few folks who hunted.''

Those accounts were in sync with statistics released Tuesday for the two biggest hunting days of the year. According to the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources, the statewide harvest of deer during the opener last weekend was 13% below last year's mark, which was lower than the year before. As of Tuesday morning, hunters had registered 75,900 deer statewide.

To pull even with results from a year ago, deer hunters would have to harvest another 97,000 deer through the remaining five days of the primary firearms season and ancillary hunts that last until Dec. 31. For Minnesota's wildlife managers, hunting is the primary management tool to control the state's whitetail population.

"I'm hoping we can make up the decrease,'' said DNR Big Game Program Supervisor Barb Keller.

The agency isn't blaming weather for the slowdown in deer registrations. On the whole, temperatures were cool but not cold. Snow and rain weren't widespread and hunters didn't have to worry about storms.

The DNR had predicted a low harvest in the Arrowhead region, where the whitetail population has been crashing for several years. "That has definitely played out,'' Keller said. Since the start of archery season Sept. 16, hunters in the northeast have only killed 9,300 deer, nearly 20% fewer than this time last year.

What's needed for the animals to rebound, Keller said, is a string of mild winters. Deer in the Arrowhead have been pounded from consecutive severe winters that wiped out food sources and made the animals more vulnerable to predation, she said. Because of endangered species protections, the DNR hasn't been able to manage the state's gray wolf population via hunting and trapping since 2014. In 2022, the agency estimated Minnesota is home to 500 wolfpacks and up to 3,240 wolves.

Keller said DNR's central region — stretching diagonally from northwest Wadena County to the southeast corner of Houston County — gives Minnesota the best chance to boost sagging harvest results. As of Tuesday morning, hunters in the region had registered 16,788 deer, down 4% compared to a year ago at this time.

She'll be keeping a close eye on that region for a possible improvement in productivity as the primary firearms season continues through Sunday. Keller said she's also going to investigate why the deer harvest has been so light in the southwest region. As of Tuesday morning, the region's hunters had registered 7,800 deer, down a whopping 17% from a year ago.

Licenses decrease, too
Overall deer license sales also were down. Through opening weekend, the DNR sold 376,536 deer licenses of all kinds, down 4% from a year ago. Regular firearms deer license sales fell under 300,000 for the first time since 2007.

Keller said the slide was not unexpected, part of an ongoing bleed in participation as older hunters age out of the sport. But on the flip side, DNR has sold significantly fewer deer licenses to youth hunters this year compared to a year ago. According to sales figures, youth deer licenses with tags for ages 13 to 17 have totaled 34,000 so far this year. That's a 6% decline from a year ago at this time.


Minnesota's archery deer season opened Sept. 16 and runs through Dec. 31. Going into last weekend's opener for the firearms season, bow hunters had killed 12% fewer deer than last year at the same time. Interestingly, Keller said, 40% of the archery harvest has been accomplished with crossbows, the first year they have been legal for all hunters.

No fatal hunting accidents were reported on opening weekend, but there was a close call in Otter Tail County. DNR conservation officer Tricia Plautz reported Tuesday that an occupied deer stand in her patrol area was hit by a neighboring hunter's rifle bullet. Plautz met with everyone involved and the people were cooperative, she reported. "Thankfully, no injuries,'' Plautz wrote.

On opening day in Douglas County, emergency responders called for a helicopter to airlift a 65-year-old man to St. Cloud Hospital. According to the sheriff's Facebook page, the hunter fell 10 feet to the ground from a deer stand early Saturday afternoon near Lake Ida. He was on the ground for about an hour before someone called for help. A conservation officer said the injuries did not appear to be life-threatening.


Regarding wolves in northern Minnesota, Tuesday's conservation officer reports were full of complaints about the predation of deer. There were also many citations issued for hunting over bait.

Conservation officer Anthony Bermel worked in the Babbitt area, hearing from deer hunters about frequent wolf sightings. One hunter had three wolves run to a deer he dropped, Bermel wrote. "After getting his deer back from the wolves and field dressing it, the wolves made quick work of the gut pile and then ran down the power line toward the sound of another gunshot.''

Bermel noted in his report that participation in the hunt was "definitely down.''

West of there, near Orr, conservation officer Troy Fondie reported the fewest number of deer hunters he had seen in his career and even fewer deer. "Many deer camps were vacant,'' he wrote.

Statewide on opening weekend, the DNR ran its largest field surveillance operation for chronic wasting disease (CWD). In designated areas, testing of deer lymph nodes was mandatory for all harvested deer. Results are pending.
 
Cell cams have gotten ice cold since opening weekend in regards to buck sitings. I have a feeling what seemed like an abundance of 2 YO bucks is largely gone now based on the shooting and what was witnessed cruising opening day.
 
Sounds like paradise
 
My BS meter was sending alarms on this story..
Conservation officer Anthony Bermel worked in the Babbitt area, hearing from deer hunters about frequent wolf sightings. One hunter had three wolves run to a deer he dropped, Bermel wrote. "After getting his deer back from the wolves and field dressing it, the wolves made quick work of the gut pile and then ran down the power line toward the sound of another gunshot.''
So the guy ran off the wolves, gutted his buck, and then stayed around to watch them eat the guts and run after future gun shots? Sure, it's possible, but i've seen a bunch of wolves over the years and since the open seasons in 2012-14 they seem pretty set on staying away from humans most of the time. Maybe they are starving up there?
 
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Has anyone heard any reports of EHD up in that part of the state? I know that they had a pretty severe drought for most of this summer. I have heard of numerous people finding several dead deer in southern IA and northern MO, who technically didn't have as severe of a drought. Two very different climates, I know, but it makes you wonder if that isn't part of it.
 
Has anyone heard any reports of EHD up in that part of the state? I know that they had a pretty severe drought for most of this summer. I have heard of numerous people finding several dead deer in southern IA and northern MO, who technically didn't have as severe of a drought. Two very different climates, I know, but it makes you wonder if that isn't part of it.

Never heard of EHD up there.
 
Has anyone heard any reports of EHD up in that part of the state? I know that they had a pretty severe drought for most of this summer. I have heard of numerous people finding several dead deer in southern IA and northern MO, who technically didn't have as severe of a drought. Two very different climates, I know, but it makes you wonder if that isn't part of it.
We get Midges, you get Mosquitos. EHD was pretty bad her in NW MO and came later than previous known outbreaks.
 
Anyone have crossbow harvest data this year against normal archery kill from year's past?
 
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