Howboutthemdawgs
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Thermal detection on grow operations.
Interesting Iowa DNR Story
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Howboutthemdawgs
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Were worried about mom and pop private land poachers?
SD51555
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There in lies the other problem. A CO probably costs $125/hr to employ with all their gear and expenses. Is it a good use of their time to try to protect animals their agency wants eradicated anyway?
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You said in-home warrantless surveillance had solved “untold crimes,” presumably to try to make a point how widespread this freedom compromise already was and presumably to defend that there was an precedent for allowing it on rural land.
The example you gave is not compelling because it’s one that should absolutely involve a warrant in the first place. That they’re using it for that is wrong and to use that as a reason why it’s NBD to invade my privacy looking for misdemeanors is a bad use of resources.
You want open wire taps of my phone during hunting season, too?
Howboutthemdawgs
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Maybe…
Comparing game violations with in home crimes is not apples and apples. Game is an owned by the state not an individual. The state cannot enforce that law from the road with any effectiveness.
I’m not arguing from a position of theory, I’m arguing from fact. Wardens have been granted this right historically. So until such time the laws change, a warden should absolutely have the right to fly over private land in an effort to investigate. Further, this airspace issue is currently separate from a physical trespass one as airspace has been deemed public. If I can overfly your land in a Cessna and look down than I can overfly it in a drone. As I’ve stated previously, the fact that a private individual is afforded the right to fly over another’s land with a drone with impunity but a warden cannot would seem like an uphill battle in the courts.
Personally, if that matters, I don’t mind it. In the context of this case, I hope the wardens are relived of any wrongdoing. I for one appreciate their efforts in enforcing game laws that have undoubtedly help make our hunting what it is today.
Comparing game violations with in home crimes is not apples and apples. Game is an owned by the state not an individual. The state cannot enforce that law from the road with any effectiveness.
I’m not arguing from a position of theory, I’m arguing from fact. Wardens have been granted this right historically. So until such time the laws change, a warden should absolutely have the right to fly over private land in an effort to investigate. Further, this airspace issue is currently separate from a physical trespass one as airspace has been deemed public. If I can overfly your land in a Cessna and look down than I can overfly it in a drone. As I’ve stated previously, the fact that a private individual is afforded the right to fly over another’s land with a drone with impunity but a warden cannot would seem like an uphill battle in the courts.
Personally, if that matters, I don’t mind it. In the context of this case, I hope the wardens are relived of any wrongdoing. I for one appreciate their efforts in enforcing game laws that have undoubtedly help make our hunting what it is today.
I still don’t know if we agree or disagree.
You’re king. You can 1) make it illegal for all people to surveil others’ lands with drones, including LEOs without a warrant. Or 2) you can leave it wide open like today. Which are you picking? **For #1, you have to assume it’s enforceable and technologically possible.
Howboutthemdawgs
5 year old buck +
Man I don’t know. Everything is so nuanced. If I’m king and those are my two options I lean towards making illegal for everyone to fly drones over others land period. Including leo without a warrant.
At the end of the day I hate poachers. They are low life scum that feel entitled to not have to follow the rules. That comes at others hard earned expenses of time and money. I hate to make their life easier and actions emboldened
