Different chestnuts!

[Catscratch]

Saw these on a Facebook page. Huge! There are apparently quite a few varieties of chestnut out there. They are posting different one's all the time.

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[Redneck]

Saw these on a Facebook page. Huge! There are apparently quite a few varieties of chestnut out there. They are posting different one's all the time.

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Them things are huge! I wonder if a deer could eat them lol

 

[bigeight]

What in the world ?! Wow ! I would love to grow a handful of those things !

Wonder what variety they are ?

 

[Catscratch]

It said what variety they were in the post. I will try to post that over here sometime this weekend.

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[bigbendmarine]

Here's a link to a half dozen or so named chestnut varieties with some pretty darn huge nuts...
http://www.chestnutsonline.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1088

 

[bigbendmarine]

Have to add this thread made me think of a certain ACDC song popular back in my childhood days. ;)

 

[Catscratch]

"Gillet" chestnuts - Castanea sativa x castanea crenata.

Thanks.

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[yoderjac]

I think the picture is likely deceiving. First, look at where the nuts are relative to the hands. The top nut is at the last knuckle of the middle finger and the bottom is around the base of the thumb. I'm almost 6' 1" tall, and I don't have small hands. On me, that measures 5". So, if those were my hands, the nuts would each be about 1.6" tall presuming they are touching. The front left nut is about 3 fingers wide. That measures bout 2 1/4" on my hand. Next, look at the fingernails. I would guess those are the hands of a woman and likely smaller than my hands.

Big nuts, yes, but not as large as they look in the picture. I'm guessing the camera lens has a lot to do with the optics. In every batch of Dunstan chestnuts I buy, there are always a few unusually large ones.

Thanks

Jack

 

[Catscratch]

I think the picture is likely deceiving. First, look at where the nuts are relative to the hands. The top nut is at the last knuckle of the middle finger and the bottom is around the base of the thumb. I'm almost 6' 1" tall, and I don't have small hands. On me, that measures 5". So, if those were my hands, the nuts would each be about 1.6" tall presuming they are touching. The front left nut is about 3 fingers wide. That measures bout 2 1/4" on my hand. Next, look at the fingernails. I would guess those are the hands of a woman and likely smaller than my hands.

Big nuts, yes, but not as large as they look in the picture. I'm guessing the camera lens has a lot to do with the optics. In every batch of Dunstan chestnuts I buy, there are always a few unusually large ones.

Thanks

Jack

Sorry, guess I shouldn't have represented them as "huge". Maybe "kind-of big"? "Larger then normal"? How about just "different looking"?

 

[yoderjac]

Sorry, guess I shouldn't have represented them as "huge". Maybe "kind-of big"? "Larger then normal"? How about just "different looking"?

I'd call them huge. I'm not suggesting they are not. The picture simply looks like it was set up to increase that impression.

I sometimes wonder if bigger is better from a wildlife perspective. I wonder if a tree producing larger nuts produces more tonnage per season than another tree producing smaller nuts. I would think that given a tree has fixed resources (sun, nutrients, etc) that the production would be similar.

Thanks,

Jack

 

[Catscratch]

I'd call them huge. I'm not suggesting they are not. The picture simply looks like it was set up to increase that impression.

I sometimes wonder if bigger is better from a wildlife perspective. I wonder if a tree producing larger nuts produces more tonnage per season than another tree producing smaller nuts. I would think that given a tree has fixed resources (sun, nutrients, etc) that the production would be similar.

Thanks,

Jack

You ARE suggest they are not big. I just re-read your post and saw 6 instances where you tried to say they weren't all that big:
1- "likely deceiving"
2- length comparisons to your hands
3 - width comparisons
4 - small women's hand
5 - camera lens
6 - probably only same size as Dustans
Not sure why you came to a thread representing different chestnuts (something other than the American and Chinese that we always talk about) and argue the size of the nuts pictured. I can tell you that you did do that and I'm calling you out on it. Backtracking and saying you didn't do it while it's still in print seems odd to me.

 

[yoderjac]

You ARE suggest they are not big. I just re-read your post and saw 6 instances where you tried to say they weren't all that big:
1- "likely deceiving"
2- length comparisons to your hands
3 - width comparisons
4 - small women's hand
5 - camera lens
6 - probably only same size as Dustans
Not sure why you came to a thread representing different chestnuts (something other than the American and Chinese that we always talk about) and argue the size of the nuts pictured. I can tell you that you did do that and I'm calling you out on it. Backtracking and saying you didn't do it while it's still in print seems odd to me.

Regardless of the word we use "very big", "huge", or whatever, they are clearly very large chestnuts. A chestnut that is even close to 2 1/2" wide by 1 1/2" tall is BIG.

My comment was not so much about the chestnut as the picture. Regardless of how big those chestnuts are, the look even bigger because of how the picture was produced.

1 - referred to the picture.
2 - 4 - were reference numbers we could use to estimate the actual size compared to how the picture made them look.
5 - again referred to the picture not the nuts.
6 - That is a misquote. Presuming those chestnuts pictured are typical sized for that variety, they are clearly larger than Dunstan nuts. I said that when I buy Dunstans (generally a hundred or more) there are usually a few unusually large nuts.

Thanks,

Jack

 

[wklman]

I'm so confused with all this information. Are they huge? Are they not? Normal size? Enlarged? Wish there was someone who could sort it all out for me with a chestnut size chart. o_O

 

[yoderjac]

Sorry if it irked you Stu. Perhaps my education is lacking. After my first look at the picture, I thought they were much larger. I had to look closer. Evidently it was obvious to you. The follow-up was intended to make it clear to catscratch that I wasn't questioning the information he was posting about the nuts. Sorry I offended you sensitivities. I did get a copy of your post before it was deleted.

Thanks,

Jack

 

[bigbendmarine]

Wklman, ask and you shall receive. ;)

Including the nuts that were in the link I shared:

First, average weights for native American chestnut nuts and the commonly planted Dunstan and Chinese... per Yoderjack's point, there IS a good bit of variation in nut weight but what I'm sharing should be close to average.

American chestnut: approx 4.1 grams nut weight
Chinese chestnut: approx 6.5 grams nut weight
Dunstan average: approx 18.1 grams nut weight

Now for the larger species. Some of the weights below are averages, but some others such as the pictured "Gillets" at the start of the post are likely larger than average nuts. Still, the averages for these species appear to be higher than for those above, and some considerably so. Few other caveats for the species below, as mixed hybrids of varying species they have varying blight resistance and though the nuts are larger, some of the actual trees are NOT known for growing as large as the trees above so TOTAL volume output of the trees isn't necessarily superior. Take someone MUCH more knowledgeable than me to speak to the total volume estimates.

"Miller's Hope": 20.2 grams nut weight
"Torakuri": 30.2 grams nut weight
"Kaibutsu": 31.2 grams nut weight
"Szego": 31.3 grams nut weight
"Schlarbaum": 38.0 grams nut weight
"Maravel": 40.7 grams nut weight
"Gillet": 43.5 grams nut weight per info shared earlier in this thread (though reported average on link I shared is a bit lower -- as low as 37 grams though that's still huge relative to Dunstan and almost all others)

 

[yoderjac]

Wklman, ask and you shall receive. ;)

Including the nuts that were in the link I shared:

First, average weights for native American chestnut nuts and the commonly planted Dunstan and Chinese... per Yoderjack's point, there IS a good bit of variation in nut weight but what I'm sharing should be close to average.

American chestnut: approx 4.1 grams nut weight
Chinese chestnut: approx 6.5 grams nut weight
Dunstan average: approx 18.1 grams nut weight

Now for the larger species. Some of the weights below are averages, but some others such as the pictured "Gillets" at the start of the post are likely larger than average nuts. Still, the averages for these species appear to be higher than for those above, and some considerably so. Few other caveats for the species below, as mixed hybrids of varying species they have varying blight resistance and though the nuts are larger, some of the actual trees are NOT known for growing as large as the trees above so TOTAL volume output of the trees isn't necessarily superior. Take someone MUCH more knowledgeable than me to speak to the total volume estimates.

"Miller's Hope": 20.2 grams nut weight
"Torakuri": 30.2 grams nut weight
"Kaibutsu": 31.2 grams nut weight
"Szego": 31.3 grams nut weight
"Schlarbaum": 38.0 grams nut weight
"Maravel": 40.7 grams nut weight
"Gillet": 43.5 grams nut weight per info shared earlier in this thread (though reported average on link I shared is a bit lower -- as low as 37 grams though that's still huge relative to Dunstan and almost all others)

That sounds about right for an average size for Dunstans. I'd say the small ones in a batch are about the size of Chinese and the large ones are roughly twice the size of the average ones. I haven't actually weighed any but the relative sizes you post seem to be pretty consistent with my experience with American, Dunstan and Chinese.

Thanks,

Jack

 

[TreeDaddy]

Just re read this thread with Bigbendmachine AC/DC rec as soundtrack

A new perspective........

bill

 

[TreeDaddy]

Bigbendmarine.....sorry for typo

 

[H20fwler]

Those are monster chestnuts!
At first I though they looked a lot like the big horse chestnuts I see in town here, they have a huge eye covering the ends like that. Would love to have a tree putting out nuts like that...I wonder if the flavor is good too, did it say?

 

[Catscratch]

Those are monster chestnuts!
At first I though they looked a lot like the big horse chestnuts I see in town here, they have a huge eye covering the ends like that. Would love to have a tree putting out nuts like that...I wonder if the flavor is good too, did it say?

One of the replies said they are good. Compared them to a sweet European chestnut. I've never eaten a chestnut so I have no idea...

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