Deer love sugar beets

[S.T.Fanatic]

Thank your lucky stars! My pigweed drinks up gly like lemonade and asks for more. It’s almost like feeding it because it kills most anything that competes with it and it’s watching and laugh at me.

how tall is the pig weed when you spray it with gly? I hit mine when its about 3" tall.

 

[Catscratch]

how tall is the pig weed when you spray it with gly? I hit mine when its about 3" tall.

I doesn't matter how short it is, spraying with gly only removes competition. Bill and I probably have Palmer amaranth, and you probably have a different pigweed.
Palmer amaranth is bad stuff. I've had it in my driveway before where I sprayed it once a week, mowed it, and drove over it with my truck every single day. The damn stuff just grows a massive root and waits for you to slack off a little then sprout up with 10,000 seeds ready to go.

 

[Tree Spud]

I doesn't matter how short it is, spraying with gly only removes competition. Bill and I probably have Palmer amaranth, and you probably have a different pigweed.
Palmer amaranth is bad stuff. I've had it in my driveway before where I sprayed it once a week, mowed it, and drove over it with my truck every single day. The damn stuff just grows a massive root and waits for you to slack off a little then sprout up with 10,000 seeds ready to go.

Had a 1 acre plot with RR beans. Sprayed 3 times with Gly and the pigweed did not disappear. I knocked it back, but about 1/3 of the plot still has some.

I over seed every year with WR and that has no impact on the pigweed.

I am thinking of possibly not planting here at all for the 1st 2/3 of the season. Spray, mechanical tilling, re-grow & repeat.

Any other thoughts on dealing with this stuff?

 

[Catscratch]

Had a 1 acre plot with RR beans. Sprayed 3 times with Gly and the pigweed did not disappear. I knocked it back, but about 1/3 of the plot still has some.

I over seed every year with WR and that has no impact on the pigweed.

I am thinking of possibly not planting here at all for the 1st 2/3 of the season. Spray, mechanical tilling, re-grow & repeat.

Any other thoughts on dealing with this stuff?

Plant to Liberty beans. That herbicide will kill it, and it allows you to keep something growing.

 

[Mortenson]

It will kill it for now! Until someday when it doesn't.

 

[Catscratch]

It will kill it for now! Until someday when it doesn't.

Don't worry, Monsanto will have a new product line come out just in time to counteract the new resistance. :)

 

[S.T.Fanatic]

It will kill it for now! Until someday when it doesn't.

Till, Liberty, Winter Rye, No till, No till, no till,......

Once the liberty kills it off and you keep a cover growing every year and use no till, the germination rate will be less and less every year

 

[S.T.Fanatic]

Palmer amaranth

My uncle was talking about that stuff last year (At least I think thats what is was). There have been reports of it in Iowa but not up here yet. He said once it gets here he's going to quit farming. (if thats what he was referring to)

 

[Bill]

I doesn't matter how short it is, spraying with gly only removes competition. Bill and I probably have Palmer amaranth, and you probably have a different pigweed.
Palmer amaranth is bad stuff. I've had it in my driveway before where I sprayed it once a week, mowed it, and drove over it with my truck every single day. The damn stuff just grows a massive root and waits for you to slack off a little then sprout up with 10,000 seeds ready to go.

I try to spray when it’s small. Problem is when I have a canopy of beans 18” tall and the pigweed seed heads start popping through. I believe my devil is red root pigweed Amaranthus retroflexus. But I could be wrong.

 

[Bill]

I am thinking of possibly not planting here at all for the 1st 2/3 of the season. Spray, mechanical tilling, re-grow & repeat.

Any other thoughts on dealing with this stuff?

I converted one 2 acre bean field into clover a few years back. Been mowing ever since. I may try beans again this year to see if any of the 10 trillion seeds died off. Doubtful, I think the seeds are viable for like 20 years

 

[homerj]

Palmer Amaranth has been in MN for at least 3 growing seasons. https://www.mda.state.mn.us/plants-insects/palmer-amaranth-minnesota

 

[kl9]

So my uncle was able to capitalize on all my time, money, and careful planning that went into planting a beautiful stand of sugar beets.

Thanks to the idiots in charge of the Minnesota DNR this is the second buck he shot this year. Good for him but I’m more than frustrated to say the least.


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I forget, are you Winona or Houston co?


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[S.T.Fanatic]

Up in Winona county


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[Hoytvectrix]

Bumping this old thread. Is anyone still messing around with sugar beats?

Outside of my office is a demo plot of sugar beats and I don't think I have ever seen deer so desperate to eat a food source when temps really get cold. It got me thinking I might dedicate some plot space this year to it.

 

[Telemark]

Bumping this old thread. Is anyone still messing around with sugar beats?

Outside of my office is a demo plot of sugar beats and I don't think I have ever seen deer so desperate to eat a food source when temps really get cold. It got me thinking I might dedicate some plot space this year to it.

How big is the plot?

 

[bigboreblr]

They were popular in big box seed blends for a few years. They nitrogen hogs much like corn? Get that turnip pith / hollow heart if its too warm?

Been wanting a break from the grain n clover thing. However, certain crops you can plant rye with, like soybeans. Might be able to turn a good bow spot into a good late season spot with a broadcast of rye into that.

 

[Westwind]

I would never argue that deer don’t love sugar beets. By all accounts they do. My question is it is it worth it vs $4 a pound mix of seeds run through a bag seeder from Welters? This was the first snow this year. Deer weren’t even hungry yet. I had the same experience a lot of guys do, the deer need to have them planted a few years before they really figure out what they are…. I’ve looked at planting sugar beets but the weed control and seed bed prep sounds like a project if you can even get the seeds.

 

[Hoytvectrix]

How big is the plot?

It is about 1/2 of an acre and the beets were turned over in early November. The deer did not touch them until early December. I'm not sure how long it will last but as soon as temps dropped to single digits they have been there everyday.

It's has mature bucks feeding in it every afternoon at 4:30 pm.

 

[Hoytvectrix]

We plant brassicas every year in Missouri. Some years they can be amazing and others a total bust. It seems like the last few years we have had plenty of moisture throughout the summer until middle of August and then it may or may not be dry for the next several weeks. If that pattern holds, I wonder if it might actually work better for beets.

 

[Westwind]

We plant brassicas every year in Missouri. Some years they can be amazing and others a total bust. It seems like the last few years we have had plenty of moisture throughout the summer until middle of August and then it may or may not be dry for the next several weeks. If that pattern holds, I wonder if it might actually work better for beets.

This is exactly what happened to me this year. Did all my fall plots around Labor Day and they didn’t do much. The only plot that did anything was the one I posted above. I was in a big hurry and forgot to add in brassica seed so I went over it with a Solo spreader. No rain for several weeks. For some reason the stuff I did with the Solo was the only dam thing that came up strong. The snow has melted so I’m adding some more pics.