Waist high is a little high for me. I put the lens height about mid thigh. Try swapping position of the two cameras for test and make sure Camera is not leaning also.As a test, on Friday afternoon, the 15th, I moved the camera to a spot that has more activity. I made sure it was at waist high. Then on the same post, I put a wildgame cheapo camera to see what it may pick up.
As you can see, the CL camera had no problem taking pics of me but missed all the deer from the past 3 days.
The wildgame cam took a bunch of pictures and I've included some that I would say the CL certainly should have picked up.
I guess I need to get a replacement?
Cuddeback's Cuddelink
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john volkman
5 year old buck +
couple things, is the cheap cam on video mode? what is the line on the bottom with the time stamp and the round circle?As a test, on Friday afternoon, the 15th, I moved the camera to a spot that has more activity. I made sure it was at waist high. Then on the same post, I put a wildgame cheapo camera to see what it may pick up.
As you can see, the CL camera had no problem taking pics of me but missed all the deer from the past 3 days.
The wildgame cam took a bunch of pictures and I've included some that I would say the CL certainly should have picked up.
I guess I need to get a replacement?
secondly the two cameras are not aimed the same are they ? in the cuddeback images the large silver object isnt even really in the pic. the cuddeback is set to centered and is catching you in the center each time. obviously you can send it in if you prefer , i would try a new fresnel lens first but i have a hard time believing it senses a human being but not a deer in the same spot although none of the deer are in the same spot other than the one behind the feeder and if its on video im not sure that is a comparison. is it possible the cudde is aimed up slightly? it is mounted higher on the post as well.
cheap cams have a very wide sensing area to make up for poor trigger speed if the cheap is on video mode and its 7 seconds in, where di the deer start form in the video. not trying to tear apart your test but lots of questions here.
No-Tox
5 year old buck +
Camera isn't leaning as you can see by the pics it takes of me and don't think it is too high as you can see in the pic below, compared to the relation off the ground compared to the black backpack.Waist high is a little high for me. I put the lens height about mid thigh. Try swapping position of the two cameras for test and make sure Camera is not leaning also.As a test, on Friday afternoon, the 15th, I moved the camera to a spot that has more activity. I made sure it was at waist high. Then on the same post, I put a wildgame cheapo camera to see what it may pick up.
As you can see, the CL camera had no problem taking pics of me but missed all the deer from the past 3 days.
The wildgame cam took a bunch of pictures and I've included some that I would say the CL certainly should have picked up.
I guess I need to get a replacement?
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No-Tox
5 year old buck +
couple things, is the cheap cam on video mode? what is the line on the bottom with the time stamp and the round circle?As a test, on Friday afternoon, the 15th, I moved the camera to a spot that has more activity. I made sure it was at waist high. Then on the same post, I put a wildgame cheapo camera to see what it may pick up.
As you can see, the CL camera had no problem taking pics of me but missed all the deer from the past 3 days.
The wildgame cam took a bunch of pictures and I've included some that I would say the CL certainly should have picked up.
I guess I need to get a replacement?
secondly the two cameras are not aimed the same are they ? in the cuddeback images the large silver object isnt even really in the pic. the cuddeback is set to centered and is catching you in the center each time. obviously you can send it in if you prefer , i would try a new fresnel lens first but i have a hard time believing it senses a human being but not a deer in the same spot although none of the deer are in the same spot other than the one behind the feeder and if its on video im not sure that is a comparison. is it possible the cudde is aimed up slightly? it is mounted higher on the post as well.
cheap cams have a very wide sensing area to make up for poor trigger speed if the cheap is on video mode and its 7 seconds in, where di the deer start form in the video. not trying to tear apart your test but lots of questions here.
The CL is set to wide and they may slightly be pointed a bit different angles but are level. The wildgame camera is set on photo and video. I stopped the video in places I would think the CL would have picked up movement. The deer are throughout the area. They are caught on camera on the right, on the left, directly centered so I would expect the CL to pick them up. For instance, the pic of the doe in front of the feeder and buck behind the feeder attached in this post is similar inline where the CL got me and that was a video where the deer moved around in front of the camera.
These are just some if the pictures it took of deer throughout the last 3 days. There is one at night that 2 bucks went up against one another directly in front of the black protein feeder. I didn't include that one as it was foggy.
I'm perplexed too that a camera would only pic up a human and not deer.
I brought the camera home this evening and placed it on a tree in the backyard, only a couple of feet high. It would catch me but not my dog when walking in front of it within 20 ft.
Take the picture of you by feeder, divide it into 3 equal sections. The center or the middle third is close to the center of your horizontal focal and detection area. Then do same for pic from other camera.Camera isn't leaning as you can see by the pics it takes of me and don't think it is too high as you can see in the pic below, compared to the relation off the ground compared to the black backpack.
I would try tilting it down a tad or lower it a tad. It’s worth a try. I’m guessing a deer’s back is about 3”-3.5” with back to belly about 16”-18”. That would equate to center of body being about 28”to 33” or so.
john volkman
5 year old buck +
if this is a dual cell setting the detection zone to wide wont change the zone much. if you look at the fresnel lens you can see its set up to be centered. as you can see the camera detects you in almost the identical spot each time when you are walking left to right and further out it detects you slightly more tot he right because of the direction you are walking. the G or J series will detect in a wider zone when "wide" is selected. and the g has zone control on the front. if you are not happy by all means send it back but i think there is other factors here. There could be a possibility the sensor is pointed up inside the housing and its detecting your upper torso. To bad a deer didnt hit the corn pile in front.The CL is set to wide and they may slightly be pointed a bit different angles but are level. The wildgame camera is set on photo and video. I stopped the video in places I would think the CL would have picked up movement. The deer are throughout the area. They are caught on camera on the right, on the left, directly centered so I would expect the CL to pick them up. For instance, the pic of the doe in front of the feeder and buck behind the feeder attached in this post is similar inline where the CL got me and that was a video where the deer moved around in front of the camera.
These are just some if the pictures it took of deer throughout the last 3 days. There is one at night that 2 bucks went up against one another directly in front of the black protein feeder. I didn't include that one as it was foggy.
I'm perplexed too that a camera would only pic up a human and not deer.
I brought the camera home this evening and placed it on a tree in the backyard, only a couple of feet high. It would catch me but not my dog when walking in front of it within 20 ft.
No-Tox
5 year old buck +
It is a dual cell CL.if this is a dual cell setting the detection zone to wide wont change the zone much. if you look at the fresnel lens you can see its set up to be centered. as you can see the camera detects you in almost the identical spot each time when you are walking left to right and further out it detects you slightly more tot he right because of the direction you are walking. the G or J series will detect in a wider zone when "wide" is selected. and the g has zone control on the front. if you are not happy by all means send it back but i think there is other factors here. There could be a possibility the sensor is pointed up inside the housing and its detecting your upper torso. To bad a deer didnt hit the corn pile in front.The CL is set to wide and they may slightly be pointed a bit different angles but are level. The wildgame camera is set on photo and video. I stopped the video in places I would think the CL would have picked up movement. The deer are throughout the area. They are caught on camera on the right, on the left, directly centered so I would expect the CL to pick them up. For instance, the pic of the doe in front of the feeder and buck behind the feeder attached in this post is similar inline where the CL got me and that was a video where the deer moved around in front of the camera.
These are just some if the pictures it took of deer throughout the last 3 days. There is one at night that 2 bucks went up against one another directly in front of the black protein feeder. I didn't include that one as it was foggy.
I'm perplexed too that a camera would only pic up a human and not deer.
I brought the camera home this evening and placed it on a tree in the backyard, only a couple of feet high. It would catch me but not my dog when walking in front of it within 20 ft.
roosterstraw
5 year old buck +
The only time I’ve had a cuddeback not take pics when I knew it should be was because I had it up too high, which was waste high or a little higher. I now run them about mid thigh and haven’t had a problem since (that I know of). I can run a covert or Reconyx much higher, I guess due to detection zone. I personally wouldn’t hesitate sending it in if you think there is a legitimate problem with it though. If I were you I would get two cuddebacks, strap them side by side on a post, dump some corn in front of them and leave it for a couple days.
john volkman
5 year old buck +
how many links it takes to transmit the image to the home unit. 1 would mean it transmits directly , 2 would mean it transmits thru another remote or repeater before it gets home etc etc.
aa961jester
5 year old buck +
I have a J series black flash that all of a sudden the nighttime pics are very dark. I can see a deer but cant tell size or sex. The day pics are fine. Is there a way I can tell if the IR flash is working or should I check something else? Unfortunately I didn't bring ant pics home with me and the property is 12 hours away. I'm going back after Christmas.
john volkman
5 year old buck +
in test mode you can test the LED/or function. keep in mind as alkaline batteries get lower on the J series the flash intensity will decrease since it doesnt contain the capacitor that the G or k series does. The test will tell you what battery strength is and ir strength as well,
No-Tox
5 year old buck +
if this is a dual cell setting the detection zone to wide wont change the zone much. if you look at the fresnel lens you can see its set up to be centered. as you can see the camera detects you in almost the identical spot each time when you are walking left to right and further out it detects you slightly more tot he right because of the direction you are walking. the G or J series will detect in a wider zone when "wide" is selected. and the g has zone control on the front. if you are not happy by all means send it back but i think there is other factors here. There could be a possibility the sensor is pointed up inside the housing and its detecting your upper torso. To bad a deer didnt hit the corn pile in front.The CL is set to wide and they may slightly be pointed a bit different angles but are level. The wildgame camera is set on photo and video. I stopped the video in places I would think the CL would have picked up movement. The deer are throughout the area. They are caught on camera on the right, on the left, directly centered so I would expect the CL to pick them up. For instance, the pic of the doe in front of the feeder and buck behind the feeder attached in this post is similar inline where the CL got me and that was a video where the deer moved around in front of the camera.
These are just some if the pictures it took of deer throughout the last 3 days. There is one at night that 2 bucks went up against one another directly in front of the black protein feeder. I didn't include that one as it was foggy.
I'm perplexed too that a camera would only pic up a human and not deer.
I brought the camera home this evening and placed it on a tree in the backyard, only a couple of feet high. It would catch me but not my dog when walking in front of it within 20 ft.
John, I think you may be on to something about the sensor being pointed up.
After setting up in my backyard, it would detect me but I threw the ball for my dog in front of the camera and no pics of her. However, it did catch the cat on the flowerbed ledge, which is higher than the camera.
How can the sensor be adjusted?
john volkman
5 year old buck +
you can take the face off the front of the camera, and look behind the fresnel lens and see if it looks out of wack, prob not something you can adjust on your own and if that is the case they would need to fix or replace for you.John, I think you may be on to something about the sensor being pointed up.
After setting up in my backyard, it would detect me but I threw the ball for my dog in front of the camera and no pics of her. However, it did catch the cat on the flowerbed ledge, which is higher than the camera.
How can the sensor be adjusted?
Here is a pic of the PIR. I do not see how you could adjust the PIR. I really don’t see how it can be tilted unless the whole board is tilted.
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FredG
5 year old buck +
Correct... It could only be tilted relative to the cmos sensor if the PIR pyro wasn't seated all the way down on the main board when soldered. Highly unlikely, but not totally out of the question.
Below is an overlay of my estimation of the PIR sensing area on the cat photo.
The problem with this portrayal is that it's a two dimensional representation of a three dimensional issue. Animals close to the camera can slide underneath the zone without detection depending upon the height at which the camera is mounted and the tilt of the camera.
Here's a side view diagram of a high mount (5 ft) and a camera tilt of zero degrees (parallel to the ground). Note the large animal escape alley in the foreground.
And a better setup with a camera height of 2.5 ft and a camera tilt angle of -2.5 degrees. Note how much smaller the animal alley is here.
This is interesting. As a mesh network, I understand cameras will migrate to their best path to get back to the home camera. Now, it is recommended that a camera have a signal of 20 or better. I have a report showing a link of 2 with 36% signal (originally 40+ % when setup), and the very next day it is down to 12% with 1 link. When I set the camera up, I simply did a walk test from the nearest remote. I knew I'd be using a link of 2 to get back to the home camera, yet the system had enough juice to drop it to 1 with 12%. Obviously I can't define it's transmission path, but will this cause a problem for receiving photos from the furthest remote camera?
Look at your Metadata from picture. It will show IR=%.
Bpressley
5 year old buck +
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Short answer, no
When you say “a link of 2 with 36% signal“, what is the % of other 2nd link?
If it’s connecting via 1 link, that is the best of the 2 choices it had at that moment. The ping was returned via 1 link before it could go through a 2nd link.
