Crabapple Varieties & guys' comments / input

Art,

Your habitat is great. You just need some deer. Do pheasant eat any apples from the trees or drops ? Or just corn?
I have seen grouse in the flowering crabs, and very occasionally a pheasant.
Pheasants like the corn in the winter if you can keep the turkeys out long enough for the pheasants to eat.
 
It's a really good assortment of crabs you have there Bur. They're all a good size too - the apples I mean. Not too big for deer to eat easily.

I agree with NH Mtns. - I've loved the look of your property ever since I first saw your posts at the old place. ( forum ) You just need some deer to move in. I'm sure they won't leave.
 
Anybody else have any named crabs - Whitney, Chestnut, Wickson, Hyslop, Firecracker, etc. - that they have growing or producing ???? Don't be bashful just because the rest of us are !!! :D
 
I have Kerr, Centennial, Chestnut, and Monster Crab, winter wildlife crab producing at the farm. Whitney and dolgo at the farm not producing yet. I have a Centurion in my Nursery that I grafted in may 2014 with one fruit on it.

In my Nursery I have Centurion, harvest gold, Chestnut, dolgo, violi, cherry bomb, honker red, honker yellow, Kerr, hewes, Centennial, winter wildlife and probably others I can't think of right now.
 
Stu - Your Whitney is a fast grower ?? My 2 are NOT. Got them from C.M. nursery in Mich. Maybe that's the reason ?? Maybe roots aren't as claimed ??
 
Ed - What does the Centurion fruit look like ??
 
Anybody have a callaway crab?
 
The 2 Whitney's that we have are about 3/4" caliper, but the rest of the tree / limbs is spindly. Only about 5 ft. tall - 2nd leaf. It's from the nursery I ordered from once - and that's enough !! No repeat business here. Sticking with Cummins, ACN, SLN.
 
Not these as far as an upright pattern. They're mostly horizontal. Kind of a crappy shape so far. Now I wonder if they're even Whitney ?? !!!:( I guess I'll have to give them another year or so and see what gives.
 
Ed - What does the Centurion fruit look like ??

Here's a Cedar WaxWing feeding in my Centurion last March. Should give you some idea as to the size of them. They hang on until the WaxWings and Robins clean them up.
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I planted 25 dolgo seedlings from Isanti county. They are now 6 years old and 11 are producing. 2" caliper and 12-15' tall.
 
Ed - What does the Centurion fruit look like ??
Here's a Cedar WaxWing feeding in my Centurion last March. Should give you some idea as to the size of them. They hang on until the WaxWings and Robins clean them up.
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Great crab for the birds that's for sure!
 
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Ran into a bunch of these trees today in a neighborhood built in the 70s. These trees are probably 40+ years old. Not sure what they are but we're neat looking and everyone was loaded.
 
I spent quite a bit of time going through the crabs available from the USDA GRIN. The great thing about using material from the GRIN is you know a certain amount about it from their observations and other people can order scionwood and budwood from them. I probably cannot plant everything they have that I like but here is a list of crabs I'd try eventually. These all have fireblight resistance, at least a 1" fruit, and ripen with Liberty/Delicious or later.

PI 589161 M. Seiboldii hybrid, http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/acc/display.pl?1010669,
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PI 589261 - M.seiboldii hybrid, http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/acc/display.pl?1013198,
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PI 589260, Malus Fusca cross, http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/acc/display.pl?1013183.
I bud grafted this variety this summer.
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PI 589630, Ann Trio crab, http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/acc/display.pl?1018569
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PI 589786 - PRI77-1 scab resistant crab, http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/acc/display.pl?1020291
I bud grafted this variety this summer
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PI 589824 Jonsib crab http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/acc/display.pl?1020573
I budded this crab
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PI613849, Malus Prunifolia, http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/acc/obs.pl?1600307
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PI 613926, Malus Prunifolia, http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/acc/display.pl?1600334
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PI 613928, Malus Prunifolia, http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/acc/display.pl?1600336
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We had a church picnic at a widow's house, yesterday. About 20 years ago she ordered a bundle of Red Splendor crab from the local SWCD.

About 2/3 have typical flowering crab look, but !/3 would make dandy deer crabs.

The first one has pink flesh like a Firecracker and is bigger than a dolgo.

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About dolgo sized with white flesh.IMG_8109 2.jpg



Larger crabs than either of the above and still hard and green.IMG_8110 2.jpg


Just under one inch in size.IMG_8111 2.jpg
 
You will have to watch the drop times on those, they are loaded and look great. And I'm betting sandbur can talk his way into harvesting some of those scions.;)
 
I tried the red fleshed one and was not impressed. A few people liked it.

Firecracker has not tasted great at this point either.

I have the feeling that the green one will be a late dropper.
 
Anyone have anythoughts a few more late hanging varieties, Liset, Hyslop & the Hopa?
 
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The crabs at that widow's house look like a gold mine !!! REAL nice selection of varieties there.
 
The crabs at that widow's house look like a gold mine !!! REAL nice selection of varieties there.

Agreed. Does anyone know if the widow sprays or hires someone to spray? Both the foliage and crabs look incredibly clean. Time to break out the Felcos this winter.
 
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