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Post #465 above.Perhaps I missed this, but how was the number 14-19 million lives saved calculated /derived ?
Do you have a link to the source of published data?
thanks
bill
Post #465 above.Perhaps I missed this, but how was the number 14-19 million lives saved calculated /derived ?
Do you have a link to the source of published data?
thanks
bill
Posted above. Article in the lancet.Perhaps I missed this, but how was the number 14-19 million lives saved calculated /derived ?
Do you have a link to the source of published data?
thanks
bill
I believe initially mortality was directly linked to no early treatment, they told us they didn't know what it was or how to treat it. Then it went to knowing what works (hydroxy chloroquine, invermectin etc) but big pharma and the fauch were not allowing it's use due to low profitability.I may have said this before, but I firmly believe there is a genetic side to this that determines an individual's severity of sickness due to covid. Maybe even epigenetics are involved, but it'd be hard to explain any other way.
The vax for sure killed thousands but the vaccine might have saved some? Seriously?Vax MIGHT have saved some. The way covid is and acts in some and not others make it impossible to say for sure. What we do know is the vac DID kill thousands at least.
Yeah seriously, millions survived it without any treatment at all ,how do you quantify the benefits of the vax with that knowledge? The ones it "saved" may or may not have been fine without it. No way to know for sure. What we do know for sure is that it killed ,and killed a lot.The vax for sure killed thousands but the vaccine might have saved some? Seriously?
I’m with you b, the actual Covid was nothing compared to the mini-stroke and heart attack I had almost immediately after I had the vax. Never again ! I also definitely will not be wearing a mask anywhere at any time.The CEO of Pfizer got grilled in Davos but would not answer any questions on the sudden deaths and myocarditis. I’ll take my chance with Covid (I’ve had it twice) it’s like the flu.
I’m not one to look at 1000 revolvers and pick one up and play Russian Roulette , knowing that one in that group has a bullet in it .
If others do, that’s fine go for it .
My wife had to take the vaccine for work, I never got any of the shots. She had Covid at least 2 times, myself, if I had it, I was never sick enough to know I was sick. I sometimes wonder if getting the shot, makes you get Covid.
I can name countless people that got the shot, and got Covid, and I can also name many that didnt get any shots, and never got it, or knew they had it.
After the shots, my son and wife lost 2 kids, one at birth, the other 7 months pregnant. His wife got the shot, he didnt.
My daughter was told she needed to get the shot while she was pregnant, lost the baby 8 months pregnant.
My aunt died less then a week after getting her second shot, no issues prior to that.
Just seems risky to me.
I think you need to look up the definition of libertarian. I am only concerned with the individuals negative rights.14-19 million lives is moot?
I’m a libertarian. Stay off my lawn. But our world has a million things that you are required to do. Seatbelts. Catalytic converter, building regulations. My guess is you’re glad the buildings you’re in and bridges you cross have regulations the builders have to do.
Your kids had to be vaccinated to go to school. They have to be in car seats. Hell they cut your foreskin off without asking you.
You’re view on this seems to be as political as bidens.
The lancet article is not a guess
Like the "stolen election" and the threats to elected reps, judges, election officials, even military personnel ???? ( because some didn't like the election outcome )Lies are lies. Not "OK" if one side does it, right?? People in glass houses ..........I still felt like they treated us like children with lies, threats,
Proof?? What highly-regarded, esteemed TV or radio talk show host has this proof?? "Everybody knows it" - isn't proof. It's called hearsay. I'll still believe the medical community over a talking head spouting nonsense on a TV or radio program. Fauci and many others like him around the world have spent their entire lives studying and battling viruses and bacteria. And sadly, many people refuse their expertise and believe a talking head on a show over global infectious disease experts. Roll those dice ........ and don't get a flu shot, or a pneumonia shot, or an RSV shot, or a tetanus shot (the medical folks are all crazy).What we do know is the vac DID kill thousands at least.