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Why don't you watch the survival rate? Oh ... we are not being given all of the info ....
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Why don't you watch the survival rate? Oh ... we are not being given all of the info ....
Buckly
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I can tell you NY is not days away from the Italy scenario. They have acquired large amounts of ventilators in the past 2 days. And the rate of hospitalization per day is going down also.
bowhunternw
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Sorry but what you say makes no sense. If I am watching the death rate I at am the same time watching the survival rate. That is what I am saying, we know there are a lot of infected people now is the time to see how deadly it is.
Buckly
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Recent pandemics most of us have lived through,
Asian flu. 1957-58. 70,000 US deaths
Hong Kong flu. 1968-69. 34,000 US deaths
H1N1. Flu. 2009. 18,300 US deaths
Coronavirus 2020. ????
in the end we as a people will have to determine if this unprecedented response was the right thing to do.
Asian flu. 1957-58. 70,000 US deaths
Hong Kong flu. 1968-69. 34,000 US deaths
H1N1. Flu. 2009. 18,300 US deaths
Coronavirus 2020. ????
in the end we as a people will have to determine if this unprecedented response was the right thing to do.
bowhunternw
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Of course it is no big deal until it affects you or a child or spouse.
Buckly
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What does that mean? That could literally apply to everything in life. Get a hold of yourself man we’re not all going to die
Buckly
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Interesting the UK has far fewer than most developed Countries? Are they healthier over there
Bszweda
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Technically were all gonna die it's just a matter of when. If iam ever at a age iam in a nursing home I'll probably be ready to go.
Buckly
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Japan is the outlier here. As old a population they have just not a lot going on over there. 1 new death today.
chickenlittle
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The flu rarely overwhelms a regional health care system like you are seeing in Italy and Spain. The trajectory in the NYC metro area looks pretty bad. It looks like it will get to where other fairly routine medical events will also become life threatening. My area in upstate NY still is looking pretty good. I'm hopeful that the restrictions and sacrifices were done early enough. I wish that outcome for most states; that they got onto the social distancing program early enough. That gives them the best case scenario at this point, some number of fatalities but the health system holds. And their citizens can keep on complaining about how it was all overkill and overhype and unneccessary while being oblivious to the steps made to keep it from being that bad.
Related to ksgobbler's 1170 post ....
In 2016, 68.7 % of the U.S. population was over 60 years of age. About 22.5% of the 325 million Americans in 2017 (consistent with your graph). Actually, it's about 330M today even though Trump said there were 350M Americans during his press briefing today (census must have missed some he knew about ... my opinion).
Let's estimate there are probably at least 70M Americans over 60 years of age in 2020. If only persons over 60 were killed by the virus (after all, everyone knows it only kills senior citizens (sarcasm), and if disease-surges overwhelm the health care systems of several states, is a death rate of 2.5% unrealistic? Heck it's only 1.75 Million Parents and Grandparents! A 5% mortality rate would be only 3.5 Million old folks!
Someone should send that to Glen Beck who said we should send folks over 50 out to work (restart the economy) and keep young people at home.
When the President was asked in his press briefing today (3-3-25), how many lives he was willing to lose (yes, I know it's a dump question), the President responded appropriately with NONE(my opinion). These statistics should sober up some people who think it is just the flu; or, that the flu is just as deadly.
Mostly facts here folks, no political judgments!
Peace
In 2016, 68.7 % of the U.S. population was over 60 years of age. About 22.5% of the 325 million Americans in 2017 (consistent with your graph). Actually, it's about 330M today even though Trump said there were 350M Americans during his press briefing today (census must have missed some he knew about ... my opinion).
Let's estimate there are probably at least 70M Americans over 60 years of age in 2020. If only persons over 60 were killed by the virus (after all, everyone knows it only kills senior citizens (sarcasm), and if disease-surges overwhelm the health care systems of several states, is a death rate of 2.5% unrealistic? Heck it's only 1.75 Million Parents and Grandparents! A 5% mortality rate would be only 3.5 Million old folks!
Someone should send that to Glen Beck who said we should send folks over 50 out to work (restart the economy) and keep young people at home.
When the President was asked in his press briefing today (3-3-25), how many lives he was willing to lose (yes, I know it's a dump question), the President responded appropriately with NONE(my opinion). These statistics should sober up some people who think it is just the flu; or, that the flu is just as deadly.
Mostly facts here folks, no political judgments!
Peace
Mortenson
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I agree with that, I think. Living to be 100 and having all your systems start to fail on you for years seems horrible. I'd like to have a nice life to about 85 or so and then have the big one. Of course there are exceptions.
roymunson
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I have this feeling that my fire will rage hot. i'll probably cram about 100 years of living into 60 years of life, then go out in a blaze of glory. Hopefully a heart attack while dragging a 200" buck out of the woods or with a black marlin on the other end of the line.
If I make it that long, its been a heck of a ride. If I don't, I know where I'm headed and it's better than here anyways.
Bszweda
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Related to ksgobbler's 1170 post ....
and if disease-surges overwhelm the health care systems of several states, is a death rate of 2.5% unrealistic? Heck it's only 1.75 Million Parents and Grandparents! A 5% mortality rate would be only 3.5 Million
How does the famous saying go?
A Single Death is a Tragedy; a Million Deaths is a Statistic.
dogghr
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If one accepts who is ultimately in charge of all that we know, it makes living so much more realistic. That is not to say we should put Him to the test, and we do need take precautions. But over reaction is more damaging stress wise than the drama itself. Its each persons choice , their decision ultimately. If you have lived a life teaching your friends and family how to live properly, then death is much more acceptable and has already been numbered for each. Yes its tough for those left behind, but they will continue regardless. Perhaps my outlook is different as I've cheated death so many times already. My 90 yo father who sits in his own world with alzheimers , no doubt in my mind would have rather something would have ended his crazy active life long ago. But that isn't his choice for whatever reason. My son lived more in his 39 years than 3/4 the world do in their lifetime. The influence both of those men had on others affected many along the way. I should hope I could be as much.
Yes we all have our opinions, we all have our political beliefs, and perhaps some are not ready to move on, but that is a persons prerogative. Make sure you choose wisely. Just my opinion, not worth all that much. Off to golf I go, fish on Friday, farm on Saturday. I'll play safe, but dangit, I sure won't play scared.
Yes we all have our opinions, we all have our political beliefs, and perhaps some are not ready to move on, but that is a persons prerogative. Make sure you choose wisely. Just my opinion, not worth all that much. Off to golf I go, fish on Friday, farm on Saturday. I'll play safe, but dangit, I sure won't play scared.
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