Conspiracy theorys, where do you stand?

[SD51555]

Strategic partnerships between the U.S. gov and private industry has driven scientific advances. I'm not sure we need to own the companies and I am not exactly sure what strategic purpose keeping Spirit open achieves but there must be some good reason.

One thing that has never crossed my mind personally is "boy I gotta get on Etrade and buy me some Spirit Airlines"...

Also- government isn't a business. Full stop.

There are lots of public-private ventures that have benefited humanity…

COVID 19
The COVID vaccine
Federal student loans
Cash for clunkers
Opium in Afghanistan
The federal reserve
OxyContin
GLP-1s
SSRIs
Petroleum based dyes
Blood pressure meds
Arthritis meds
Birth control
HPV vaccine
Polio vaccine
Hep B vaccine
Statins
Benzos
Flouride
Herbicide tolerant food
Vegetable oil
Ethanol
Coal bans
The Learing Center
Medical rides program
Autism treatment programs
The incandescent light bulb ban
Diesel exhaust fluid
The automobile kill switch
Drag
Trans
MAIDS
SNAP
Food police
FISA
NATO
SIFI
War
USAID
Onlyfans
Terrorism
AIPAC
Plum island
Lime disease
Mange
CWD
X-keyscore
Taylor swift
Acorn
Project mockingbird
Operation cirrus
Fannie Mae
Crack
HIAS
United fruit company
Mohammed Pahlavi
How did all this cocaine get here?
#meToo
Occupy Wall Street
CBS
Black Lives Matter
FDIC
NASA
Faucci’s beagle experiments
Aspartame

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[Telemark]

I wish the money would come from somewhere other than our tax dollars. jmho

Without holdings in private companies, the only money they can use is tax money.

If the US government had a sovereign wealth fund, it would be investing tax dollars into companies, which could increase the amount of money the government can use for further investment.

The state governments already own private assets in retirement funds.

 

[Jerry-B-WI]

Without holdings in private companies, the only money they can use is tax money.

If the US government had a sovereign wealth fund, it would be investing tax dollars into companies, which could increase the amount of money the government can use for further investment.

The state governments already own private assets in retirement funds.

Where does the money come from to put into the sovereign wealth fund?

Just sounds like another way to transfer my money to their pockets.

 

[Brian662]

Tariffs and starting a war squander a 16 year advantage, who knew?

 

[Brian662]

Maybe this explains it. Consumer sentiment at a 70+ years low

 

[Howboutthemdawgs]

Maybe this explains it. Consumer sentiment at a 70+ years low

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This is how socialism takes root and doesn’t let go.

 

[jsasker007]

Why do people believe anything they tell us as far as job growth, unemployment rates etc...? Believing the same people who are 40 trillion in debt might not be the best call. jmho

 

[Brian662]

Why do people believe anything they tell us as far as job growth, unemployment rates etc...? Believing the same people who are 40 trillion in debt might not be the best call. jmho

In this case is the "they" the U of Michigan or are you referring to the Fox News poll on the economy?

 

[Telemark]

Where does the money come from to put into the sovereign wealth fund?

Just sounds like another way to transfer my money to their pockets.

Federally owned minerals, for example.

Norway's sovereign wealth fund is about 2 trillion dollars as of today. It was created in 1990, and funded mostly by oil The country has about 850 billion in foreign-held debt, and we have just under 5 million citizens, so that's about +$230,000 per person on the balance sheet. Compare that to the US debt of over 9 trillion dollars, divided by 350 million people, and it's roughly -$26,000.

Norway is in a unique situation, and it's not possible for the US to go back in time, but it shows the power of treating resources owned by the government as if they were owned by the people. It's not even a new concept in the US. Alaska has a sovereign wealth fund.

Alaska Permanent Fund - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[bwoods11]

Maybe this explains it. Consumer sentiment at a 70+ years low

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Yet the stock market is near record. Analysts are saying the second half of the year could experience 3-4% GDP… . US investment is at all time high. Inflation is 1/3 of what it was in 2022? Job growth, wage growth are both considered good .

If you look at the Michigan number it is heavily skewed by Democrats opinions. Obviously they hate life right now. Obsessed with it .

I ignore the doom & gloom … my business is seeing excellent growth , a lot of my friends in the same boat . I’m not hearing complaints?

Real estate is still strong by me..million dollar lake homes selling almost weekly now ? No signs of any crash ?

Who is struggling so bad ? I’d like to know some details on the part of the economy that is in such dire straits?

 

[jsasker007]

In this case is the "they" the U of Michigan or are you referring to the Fox News poll on the economy?

Pretty much anything you see in the "news" that's got nothing to do with truth or facts anymore and is more of a mass brainwashing tool for people that need someone else to tell them what to think. And the sheeple gobble it up without question almost every time.

 

[jsasker007]

Yet the stock market is near record. Analysts are saying the second half of the year could experience 3-4% GDP… . US investment is at all time high. Inflation is 1/3 of what it was in 2022? Job growth, wage growth are both considered good .

If you look at the Michigan number it is heavily skewed by Democrats opinions. Obviously they hate life right now. Obsessed with it .

I ignore the doom & gloom … my business is seeing excellent growth , a lot of my friends in the same boat . I’m not hearing complaints?

Real estate is still strong by me..million dollar lake homes selling almost weekly now ? No signs of any crash ?

Who is struggling so bad ? I’d like to know some details on the part of the economy that is in such dire straits?

Have to keep in mind that even if we have the very best economy in history they will never link the success to Trump. I think the lefties would rather die before giving Trump credit for anything. jmho

 

[Jerry-B-WI]

Federally owned minerals, for example.

Norway's sovereign wealth fund is about 2 trillion dollars as of today. It was created in 1990, and funded mostly by oil The country has about 850 billion in foreign-held debt, and we have just under 5 million citizens, so that's about +$230,000 per person on the balance sheet. Compare that to the US debt of over 9 trillion dollars, divided by 350 million people, and it's roughly -$26,000.

Norway is in a unique situation, and it's not possible for the US to go back in time, but it shows the power of treating resources owned by the government as if they were owned by the people. It's not even a new concept in the US. Alaska has a sovereign wealth fund.

Alaska Permanent Fund - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Didn't the U.S. just kidnap the leader of a country that nationalized the oil in their country?

Why should I trust our, or any, government to manage the natural resources of the country? I think history shows it doesn't work well.

 

[Brian662]

Yet the stock market is near record. Analysts are saying the second half of the year could experience 3-4% GDP… . US investment is at all time high. Inflation is 1/3 of what it was in 2022? Job growth, wage growth are both considered good .

If you look at the Michigan number it is heavily skewed by Democrats opinions. Obviously they hate life right now. Obsessed with it .

I ignore the doom & gloom … my business is seeing excellent growth , a lot of my friends in the same boat . I’m not hearing complaints?

Real estate is still strong by me..million dollar lake homes selling almost weekly now ? No signs of any crash ?

Who is struggling so bad ? I’d like to know some details on the part of the economy that is in such dire straits?

The stock market isn't the economy. That was proven under Biden multiple ATH and horrible approval/got smoked in the election. Only about 2/3 of Americans are even invested in the market.

"Analysts are saying..." all due respect, nobody believes that.

"US investments at an all time high" what does that mean? Who says that other than Trump? It certainly hasn't translated to everyday people.

There were virtually zero jobs added in 2025 after revisions, that's not a good job market.

Wage growth was good, but grew at the same pace as inflation which basically means zero growth.

"If you look at the Michigan number, it was heavily skewed by Democrats..." OK, what? The country is half Democrats give or take and half Republicans. By that logic every poll would be heavily skewed by one side or the other. U of Michigan poll is the gold standard for consumer sentiment as has been for decades. Ironically the previous low was 2022, that must have been false too?

I think your area is probably a lot like my area, folks make good living and have excess income so that if they have to tighten the belt a little, no big deal. People grumble at the grocery store checkout, but they're fine, in our neighborhoods..that isn't the case for most of America.

I'll be happy to provide more information if you'd like. I'm still anxiously awaiting your response to the PPP loans.

 

[Telemark]

Didn't the U.S. just kidnap the leader of a country that nationalized the oil in their country?

Why should I trust our, or any, government to manage the natural resources of the country? I think history shows it doesn't work well.

I'm not advocating for nationalizing anything. If the US government already owns the mineral rights under federal land, there is nothing to nationalize, there is only federal property to sell off to the private sector.

So your answer is to sell off all the country's natural resources because private individuals can manage it better?

 

[Brian662]

All in the past day. But if things are good in Lake country MN, I'm sure this is all just Democrats with TDS skewing the numbers.