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Conspiracy theorys, where do you stand?

We definitely all won as US citizens.
US debt $37 trillion.
US tariff collection since last April, $194 billion (which reduces said national debt).
But who cares, Orange man bad.
 
We definitely all won as US citizens.
US debt $37 trillion.
US tariff collection since last April, $194 billion (which reduces said national debt).
But who cares, Orange man bad.
I get it in theory but has the government spending slowed at all? Putting a band aid on an axe wound at arguably the expense of the us citizen because the dumbass government can’t stop spending doesn’t equate to a win for me.
We all want what we want so we approach policy with different lens, especially when it comes to victories or not. I want less support for people sucking off the government and cutting ridiculous projects and rooting out fraud (and guilty parties to hang). Thus far my side is 0-3
 
$37 trillion in 10 months is a nice bandaid beats $0. But again it’s not the net result it’s who’s side wins. Unfortunately every tax payer looses on this deal like the orange guy or not. But the court ruled and I’m all for that. Sometimes it goes my way, sometimes not. I still respect the court.
Something tells me this won’t be the end of the Cheeto man trying to level the playing field with counties taking advantage of the US tax payer because of years of incompetent lawyers on both sides running things.
 
I get it in theory but has the government spending slowed at all? Putting a band aid on an axe wound at arguably the expense of the us citizen because the dumbass government can’t stop spending doesn’t equate to a win for me.
We all want what we want so we approach policy with different lens, especially when it comes to victories or not. I want less support for people sucking off the government and cutting ridiculous projects and rooting out fraud (and guilty parties to hang). Thus far my side is 0-3
All of this AND how much of the tariff revenue has gone to pay down the debt? As far as I understand it, there is a slush fund that Trump reports to have for use at his discretion, including a recent farmer bailout (again) that was needed BECAUSE of the tariffs.
 
$37 trillion in 10 months is a nice bandaid beats $0. But again it’s not the net result it’s who’s side wins. Unfortunately every tax payer looses on this deal like the orange guy or not. But the court ruled and I’m all for that. Sometimes it goes my way, sometimes not. I still respect the court.
Something tells me this won’t be the end of the Cheeto man trying to level the playing field with counties taking advantage of the US tax payer because of years of incompetent lawyers on both sides running things.
I actually love tariffs. Especially targeted ones. I just think there should be a little more strategy in my opinion. Crush China should be objective one
 
Look, another foreign policy success! Let's get these guys some weapons and a new country and have a fresh war with them.


When terror is in trouble, the US state department is there to save them.
 
All of this AND how much of the tariff revenue has gone to pay down the debt? As far as I understand it, there is a slush fund that Trump reports to have for use at his discretion, including a recent farmer bailout (again) that was needed BECAUSE of the tariffs.
Was it needed? I follow the corn, soybean & beef market every week. All three are up since end of 2024. I guess it all helps a key industry.IMG_0462.pngIMG_0461.png
 
Was it needed? I follow the corn, soybean & beef market every week. All three are up since end of 2024. I guess it all helps a key industry.View attachment 89576View attachment 89577
If it wasn't needed, then what was the point, to buy votes before the midterm with American's tax money? Sounds like a Democrat move to me.
 
You said it was BECAUSE of the tariffs, making a reference to I assume prices ? A lot of Americans think prices are lower but they are not . I see it on social media.

Several people were convinced that there was not a market for soybeans and the farmers had to leave them rot in the fields. I would tell them no they can sell the beans at the local elevators and the response was “no they can’t “ … 😵‍💫😂

Democrats are good at propaganda!!
 
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The belief in the West that Iran is more vulnerable now than at anytime in the last 46 years is the creation of a US funded propaganda campaign that relied on an ideologically biased pollster to produce results that have been used to convince most Americans that Iran is yearning to breath free… All we have to do is kill off the leadership in Iran.

 
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The money collected from Trump's tariffs goes to the U.S. Treasury's general fund, where it can be used for any government spending authorized by Congress. The tariff revenue is not earmarked for specific programs and is treated like other federal tax revenues
 
So food stamps social welfare programs and military contractor kickbacks
 
You said it was BECAUSE of the tariffs, making a reference to I assume prices ? A lot of Americans think prices are lower but they are not . I see it on social media.

Several people were convinced that there was not a market for soybeans and the farmers had to leave then rot in the fields. I would tell them no they can sell the beans at the local elevators and the response was “no they can’t “ … 😵‍💫😂

Democrats are good at propaganda!!
The Trump administration has said it, because of retaliatory tariffs from China. "Severe financial losses caused by retaliatory tariffs" straight from the USDA under this administration.

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The money collected from Trump's tariffs goes to the U.S. Treasury's general fund, where it can be used for any government spending authorized by Congress. The tariff revenue is not earmarked for specific programs and is treated like other federal tax revenues
Thanks for the correction.
 
Brian— they did refuse to buy soybeans for awhile. China then changed its tune and will buy a lot of soybeans? Will they continue, wait & see…
 
Brian— they did refuse to buy soybeans for awhile. China then changed its tune and will buy a lot of soybeans? Will they continue, wait & see…
That's good and I'm glad to hear it. Why continue with the bailout then, seems unnecessary?
 
So the price of beans is $10.50. So what.

Inputs. Land rent. Can’t have a discussion of soybean profitability without talking the input cost.

Nationally soybean farmers are looking at $80-90 per acre loss after inputs with $10.50 beans.

In Illinois our yields are supposedly around 75 bushels per acre. At $10.50 that puts us around $15 per acre profit. Not enough. Some of the best soil in the country.

The bailout is $30-35 an acre. Not enough for most.

Need the price of beans to be above $11 for average farmer to break even. Got bad soil? That still ain’t gonna work.
 
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Not sure who you are responding to?

The point I made was social media Democrats had a big push online to make it sound like Trump caused soybean prices to crash which was inaccurate, as prices were up …

Hopefully they go up another $1-2 !!
 
The bankers and big input suppliers including machinery are who push for the bailouts.

Federally subsidized crop insurance is the problem. The fringe grew small grains and then crop insurance made it so that bean and corn belt expanded to include the fringe.
 
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