Basagran + Cleth?

[SwampCat]

Any problem with mixing basagran and cleth in same tank?

 

[Westwind]

I did and had good results. Used mso crop oil.

 

[SwampCat]

I did and had good results. Used mso crop oil.

Thanks

 

[bigboreblr]

Curious whats the mix for?

Spread rye n clovers, Sprayed basagran + gly, then tire dragged it in. Think there was residual issues? Sedge looks pretty beat up though.

2 foodplots seem ok. One din't germinate well. It might be barely any rain and the one plot has more grass versus the others had taller goldenrod. Might be better thatched over / shaded. The plot that did bad may have been sprayed a bit denser too.

 

[SwampCat]

Curious whats the mix for?

Spread rye n clovers, Sprayed basagran + gly, then tire dragged it in. Think there was residual issues? Sedge looks pretty beat up though.

2 foodplots seem ok. One din't germinate well. It might be barely any rain and the one plot has more grass versus the others had taller goldenrod. Might be better thatched over / shaded. The plot that did bad may have been sprayed a bit denser too.

I have a fair amount of existing clover - and a lot of sedge - and some grass. Several of these food plots have been going 8 or ten years. I would like to preserve the existing clover and get rid of the rest of the vegetation - in particular, the sedge - which 24db does not affect. Will plant after spraying.

 

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I put 24 ounces of basagran in a 15 gallon sprayer. Added about 30 ounces of 41% gly. Probably did about .75-8 acres. Bought basagran for $75 off ebay, might be a few years old.

Came back from camp, clover tops died, but alot came back with the younger smaller leaves, much like a typical gly burndown. Did this on the tail edge of decent water conditions. Think it rained 2 or 3 days after and thats about it. See what the sedge looks like next year. From what I gather, sedge is warm season and grows very little in the fall time. Often after a august gly burn, it seems to disappear or keep very small.

I doubt you'll ever win the war with sedge. Consistently winning battles will be a good victory in my book.

Watch your plot edges, may need to take a sprayer wand and push it into the brush, field entrances, and neighboring spots.

Sedge propagates by roots. Seed is very tough to propagate, although not impossible. Attacking it, attack it again, or light tillage after an attack during a dry spell helps too. They say sedge grows where drainage isn't good. Sedge does not need bacteria to thrive like other plants do. Those myo blends, improving drainage, and maybe spring barley (myo bacteria).

 

[SwampCat]

I put 24 ounces of basagran in a 15 gallon sprayer. Added about 30 ounces of 41% gly. Probably did about .75-8 acres. Bought basagran for $75 off ebay, might be a few years old.

Came back from camp, clover tops died, but alot came back with the younger smaller leaves, much like a typical gly burndown. Did this on the tail edge of decent water conditons. Think it rained 2 or 3 days after and thats about it. See what the sedge looks like next year. From what I gather, sedge is warm season and grows very little in the fall time. Often after a august gly burn, it seems to disappear or keep very small.

Mine is growing fairly well right now. Bush hogged a plot two weeks ago and sedge has probably grown a couple inches since. Was 98 degrees tosay

 

[bigboreblr]

Still wondering if basagran has residual against growing rye. The one plot that didnot do well has alot more organic matter in the soil vs denser sand like other spots. That plot had less taller thatch too. Like most of us, past month has been tough for rain too.

I spread rye clover and some oats again. Probably 60-70 lbs / acre rye and 20-30 lbs / acre oats. Was meant for a guy in my clubs little fooplot but he never went out there and worked on it.

 

[Westwind]

Still wondering if basagran has residual against growing rye. The one plot that didnot do well has alot more organic matter in the soil vs denser sand like other spots. That plot had less taller thatch too. Like most of us, past month has been tough for rain too.

I spread rye clover and some oats again. Probably 60-70 lbs / acre rye and 20-30 lbs / acre oats. Was meant for a guy in my clubs little fooplot but he never went out there and worked on it.

I’m not sure but I’ll go scout tomorrow and take some pics. Problem is I had good soil moisture, no rain, then a little rain and then a really long stretch without rain so hell I don’t know.

 

[birdog]

Still wondering if basagran has residual against growing rye. The one plot that didnot do well has alot more organic matter in the soil vs denser sand like other spots. That plot had less taller thatch too. Like most of us, past month has been tough for rain too.

I spread rye clover and some oats again. Probably 60-70 lbs / acre rye and 20-30 lbs / acre oats. Was meant for a guy in my clubs little fooplot but he never went out there and worked on it.

I was told by BASF rep there is no residual with Basagran. They also sent me the below additive rate chart.

 

[birdog]

I mixed cleth and basagran with great results. I did my follow up basagran spray about 14 days after my first application minus the cleth for round 2. I completely wiped out my nutsedge which was my main focus. Hopefully it will not return next year but we will have to wait and see.

I broadcast my usual seed mix (cereal rye, oats, rape, kale, chicory and several clovers) into existing clover about two weeks after my final spraying and I had great germination on everything.

 

[Westwind]

I forgot I said I’d scout. Here is my timber plot. It is the best of all of my plots. Like I said above I had good soil moisture after spraying one week and planting the next. HOT dry weather after planting. There is shade here part of the day and did ok.


Most of my plots look more like this. Spotty. Strips of purple tops are what seemed to make it through the heat spell. Both of these plots got basagran and a grass herbicide. Wasn’t cleth. I forget what the guy had but it was similar to cleth, selective grass only.

 

[Westwind]

I sprayed this too then ran the seeder through it. It was established clover so it’s normal that the clover doesn’t let much happen but you can see some rye getting up through it. My edges look kinda shaggy this year, I tried summer mix up tight to timber and it needs to be white clover.




Then I got spots like this. I think I just missed it with the seeder- that being said this spot gets powder dry despite being shaded. Pretty sure I just missed it somehow. Or maybe I had the drum that drives the seeder gobbled up and it wasn't turning. Herbicide worked though!

 

[birdog]

I had a spot like that this year that I ended up having to reseed and topped it off with rye and oats. It was a carpet of green a couple of days ago in spite of very little rain.

That field edge looks great!

 

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Basagran needs crop oil? I know clethodim needs it. Dont think I used any surfacant with the basagran at camp. Using clethodim by itself at home with non onic surfactant worked great in my fallow backyard areas I mow every 3-4 weeks. foxtail came out dead qick. perennial rye took longer to brown out. Got nothing but weeds, which I want. Going to frost seed some clover, probably 1/2 dutch 1/2 ladino.

 

[birdog]

I don't think it needs it unless you add cleth.

 

[Westwind]

I had a spot like that this year that I ended up having to reseed and topped it off with rye and oats. It was a carpet of green a couple of days ago in spite of very little rain.

That field edge looks great!

I’m helping a buddy with a project when I should be hunting and seeding! Have rain in forecast, I gotta get out there and overseed

 

[SwampCat]

Wasnt really impressed with sedge kill from basagran. 2 pints per acre over two weeks ago

 

[birdog]

It's been too warm to hunt where I'm at so that's pretty much all I've been doing.

 

[SwampCat]

It's been too warm to hunt where I'm at so that's pretty much all I've been doing.

Didnt know there was such a thing as “too warm to hunt”