Clover plot help

[JoshAnderson]

In NW MN, I have a clover plot that I planted in 2018ish. Still have decent clover, but I'm getting alot of weeds, mostly grass, it's also on a part where I can't work it, it's solid rock and would break any equipment. I mow it 2-3 times a summer and fertilize with 40lbs P a year and 60 lbs of K a year, actual fertilizer, my question, do I just burn it all down with gly, plant brassica this summer then clover next year? Or spray cleth, and seed more clover, possibly spraying 24db as well? I love the clover plot, just don't overly want to start over

 

[SwampCat]

If you like it I would spray cleth and 24db or imox to reduce competition and add a little seed this fall - rejuvenate the plot

 

[Bill]

I vote Imox. More
Expensive but I’ve had better results.

 

[davidhelmly]

Hit it with Cleth now and see how it looks.

 

[RGrizzzz]

I've been very impressed with my neighbors use of Thunder on their clover. They sprayed in the fall, and there's still no grass or weeds. Our plot about 150 yards away has plenty.

Here's the generic. 4-6oz per acre

https://www.keystonepestsolutions.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1075&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&adpos=&scid=scplp1075&sc_intid=1075&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20598086762&gclid=CjwKCAjwz_bABhAGEiwAm-P8YU6rvXQs8dVxgJ2PqXAISh-DUJKHyQynXyYw7dKDxhvNnHIwLCbUGhoCy-cQAvD_BwE

 

[bigboreblr]

Still not too late to hit with a light dose of gly, lkie 16-24oz an acre. When doing light gly applications, you need to know your spray rate are acre well though. Will stun the clover and likely kill whats above the ground. But established roots wiill outgrow germinating new seeds on top. IF you recall what weeds you saw last year, when you see them starting to emerge, you can do the light dose. Without disturbing the seed bed with tillage, wht seeds are on top germinated for the year and killed with the mid spring light dose of gly.

Clover makes nitrogen, too much nitrogen and it needs to be used.

Whatever you decide, I would keep the clover alive for the summer. Never know if we're getting a dry one again or not.

To fight unwanted plants well, you need to ID them good. Sometimes grass is sedge.

IF you do the fall usage of small grains, it soaks up the excess nitrogen. After the deer have a fair amount of options ot eat mid spring, you can terminate the rye, or let it go to maturity.

At camp golden rod seems to take over annually, but the clover waits patiently in the background and take the forefront after labor day.

 

[Bowsnbucks]

I've been very impressed with my neighbors use of Thunder on their clover. They sprayed in the fall, and there's still no grass or weeds. Our plot about 150 yards away has plenty.

Here's the generic. 4-6oz per acre

https://www.keystonepestsolutions.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1075&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&adpos=&scid=scplp1075&sc_intid=1075&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20598086762&gclid=CjwKCAjwz_bABhAGEiwAm-P8YU6rvXQs8dVxgJ2PqXAISh-DUJKHyQynXyYw7dKDxhvNnHIwLCbUGhoCy-cQAvD_BwE

Is that spray herbicide good for grass and weeds???

 

[RGrizzzz]

Is that spray herbicide good for grass and weeds???

Yes, some kinds of grass.

 

[omicron1792]

Thunder/imazathepyr 4oz/acre with EITHER 12oz/acre of Clethodim or 10oz/acre of gly. It will perk it right up. Generally spray this in spring around April/may.

Cut back on mowings. Mowings promote grass (think of your yard). Mow it once a year in late summer.

Clover plots need to be freshened every year. Plant 50/acre of rye and a couple pound of what clover you have right after mowing in late summer early fall. A light discing at planting can freshen it too.

 

[omicron1792]

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[omicron1792]

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[omicron1792]

Imazathepyr and Imox are very similar and kill almost exact same weeds. Imazathepyr just lasts longer, about 3-4 months where imox lasts 1-2 months. Use imox later in year to have less plant back restrictions, but use imazathepyr in spring to give long lasting control.

Both control grasses, but adding cleth or light gly really nukes all grasses with very little negative effect on the clover.

Chicory will survive 4oz but will be stunted. If really wanting to baby the chicory do 2oz/acre of the imi herbicide.

 

[splitbrow]

Thunder/imazathepyr 4oz/acre with EITHER 12oz/acre of Clethodim or 10oz/acre of gly. It will perk it right up. Generally spray this in spring around April/may.

Cut back on mowings. Mowings promote grass (think of your yard). Mow it once a year in late summer.

Clover plots need to be freshened every year. Plant 50/acre of rye and a couple pound of what clover you have right after mowing in late summer early fall. A light discing at planting can freshen it too.

So you can mix imox and clethodim together, cool been trying to find this out, thanks

 

[omicron1792]

Yes. No problems with that. I use cleth or low dose gly just based on what I have closest.

 

[omicron1792]

Use AMS, blue dye, and NIS also.

 

[splitbrow]

Thanks for your help

 

[omicron1792]

Thanks for your help

Of course! I’ve learned way more here than I’ve given. Herbicides are just something I have down now.