Great find Hoyt, has a bit of a Scottsbluff look about it.
Arrowhead and other historic/pre-historic collections
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Mortenson
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Chris 1st said Holland but that's not quite right either.
Mortenson
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Catscratch
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Here's a guide for KS. May help with other parts of the country too? I took a black point to a museum once to ask about it's history. He said it was not a KS point or stone, but likely something a native traded for.
https://www.projectilepoints.net/Search/Kansas_Search.html
Guys I thought I’d post this and see if anyone knows anything about what it is. All I know is it’s probably a spear point due to its size. I found it in a field I tilled by my house years ago. The field is by an old house site so who knows if it was there forever or maybe fell out of some farm kids pocket.
I look sometimes but I must not be very good at this! I was on the tractor when I saw this one. Slammed on the brakes thinking “that looked like an arrowhead”.
I look sometimes but I must not be very good at this! I was on the tractor when I saw this one. Slammed on the brakes thinking “that looked like an arrowhead”.
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I should have put that in there! Northwest Illinois. I’m about 5 miles from Albany Mounds site and half hour from the Potters Marsh site. My dad found a lot of small points trapping in the Mississippi River near Potters, there is also a large burial mound up there.
Bowsnbucks
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How did the natives kill anything with such crude, non-scientifically-engineered arrow heads?
Nice find.
bigbendmarine
5 year old buck +
Shared this few years back in my "Florida Destiny" land tour thread, but this is DEFINITELY my LARGEST historic find to date. Noticed it out of the corner of my eye as a buddy and I were in his mud motor boat flying along a nearby crystal clear spring fed river. QUICKLY got him to stop and turn around and after searching for a few minutes we spotted it again. Local university confirmed it was indeed dug out by human hands long ago. 
Frustrating part of the story is that my buddy met the university folks who checked it out but I was too busy with work to go, and a few weeks later my buddy shared the university folks moved it some distance to prevent anyone from knowing the precise spot / visiting it, with him swearing he doesn't know where they moved it. I never told a soul where we found it / miles down the river in an extremely remote / little traveled spot. Hate it I can't go back occasionally to see it again.
Frustrating part of the story is that my buddy met the university folks who checked it out but I was too busy with work to go, and a few weeks later my buddy shared the university folks moved it some distance to prevent anyone from knowing the precise spot / visiting it, with him swearing he doesn't know where they moved it. I never told a soul where we found it / miles down the river in an extremely remote / little traveled spot. Hate it I can't go back occasionally to see it again.
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bigbendmarine
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If you haven't yet visited projectilepoints.net it's a good place to research / learn different points. May have been a spear point, but also could have been used as a knife or scraper.
https://www.projectilepoints.net/Points/Snyders.html
hillrunner
5 year old buck +
What is it?Shared this few years back in my "Florida Destiny" land tour thread, but this is DEFINITELY my LARGEST historic find to date. Noticed it out of the corner of my eye as a buddy and I were in his mud motor boat flying along a nearby crystal clear spring fed river. QUICKLY got him to stop and turn around and after searching for a few minutes we spotted it again. Local university confirmed it was indeed dug out by human hands long ago.
Frustrating part of the story is that my buddy met the university folks who checked it out but I was too busy with work to go, and a few weeks later my buddy shared the university folks moved it some distance to prevent anyone from knowing the precise spot / visiting it, with him swearing he doesn't know where they moved it. I never told a soul where we found it / miles down the river in an extremely remote / little traveled spot. Hate it I can't go back occasionally to see it again.
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bigbendmarine
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Dugout canoe. The above pictured shared, one we found was quite a bit narrower as are many others that are discovered. Definitely not an option for many heavier/wider folks today.
One particular lake in FL has had over 100 appear during droughts. Video speaks to that spot and also shows one similarly narrow to the one we found.
As for footage of the actual river (Wacissa) just 5 miles or so from my house, ashamed to admit I only find the time to go there with years between visits despite being crazy close and a very special place. These two videos share footage of a few adventures I shared with a few close friends on the river.
One interesting historical link to the Wacissa is that it was identified as one of the spots having the densest populations of Ivory Billed woodpeckers prior to their extinction (one breeding pair per 6 square miles versus 10 to 20 square miles in other areas of the gulf coast), and was one of the later locations to have verified sightings just prior to extinction ( and with some of those birds captured / collected).
bigbendmarine
5 year old buck +
Might should share reason I spotted the dugout was the old line, "Nature abhors a straight line" hitting my brain within a second of eyeballing the two parallel sides of the dugout as we raced by it.
bigbendmarine
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Nope. If we'd both sworn each other to secrecy guess we theoretically could have... BUT... FL law doesn't smile on handling/removal of any Indian artifacts from state waters -- 3rd degree felon charge if caught and wasn't that long ago the state ran a sting and arrested/charged more than a dozen people in the area. That, and sandy debris filled it at the time and we didn't want to risk damaging it (and that was with us initially debating whether or not it was for sure a dugout). Buddy was one who contacted university folks and they did remove debris, measure total length, and verify tool markings. Don't regret not removing it from water (they're know for decaying quickly after removal), but, again, just hate they moved it.
With a needle tip, serrations, and what looks like a bevel starting, I would call it a pine tree.
It’s kind of amazing that the needle tip is intact…
hillrunner
5 year old buck +
Holy cow, that's cool!
Bowsnbucks
5 year old buck +
I didn't know what the original pic was showing. Cool find. I wonder what those old natives would think if they could see Florida in 2025?Might should share reason I spotted the dugout was the old line, "Nature abhors a straight line" hitting my brain within a second of eyeballing the two parallel sides of the dugout as we raced by it.
