My buddy is looking for a nice no till drill. His main purpose for it is food plots yearly. Can anyone give good advice on a nice one that would compliment his tractor. His tractor is a Kioti 36HP with 4 WD. It was a 3 point hitch. Any input would be appreciated. Thx, Bob
Advice for a no till drill
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Foggy47
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A few of us own Land Pride / Great Plains drills here. Here's a good thread on them.
Another popular choice may be a Genesis 3 or 5. Not sure his tractor has the stones to lift the 5'. Drill. A lower cost alternative is the Tar River Drills. Lots of satisfied users here too. Lots of threads on these drills on the tractor and implements section.
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It seems as though there are some expert users here and many who are about to venture into using these drills (myself included). I thought it would be a good thing to get all of the information from calibration to mods stored up on one thread. My drill is suppose to arrive this winter, can't...
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Another popular choice may be a Genesis 3 or 5. Not sure his tractor has the stones to lift the 5'. Drill. A lower cost alternative is the Tar River Drills. Lots of satisfied users here too. Lots of threads on these drills on the tractor and implements section.
Foggy47
5 year old buck +
No problem. The first thing to know is what kind of soil does he have. Clay / Sand / Loam? Where are you located? What kinds of things intending to plant? Beans, corn, small grains, brassica, clover?
Next thing is the model of that tractor......so we can determine what kind of weights he can pick up with the 3 point. This assuming he wants a mounted drill rather than a pull type drill.
Another thing is the size plots and configuration of those fields......which will help to determine the above drill style.
Hoytvectrix
5 year old buck +
We just bought a Tar River. We have a little over 400 acres and plant about 10-12 acres in food plot each year. We have a lot of AG on our farms and in the neighborhood, otherwise we would likely plant more. I think that is also an important point worth considering - what is in the neighborhood that is lacking.
In many soils you can make perfectly acceptable food plots to hunt over without any larger equipment.
In many soils you can make perfectly acceptable food plots to hunt over without any larger equipment.
Wind Gypsy
5 year old buck +
If its a CK model it will be very limited in 3pt options due to size/weight/hydraulic capability. Maybe could handle a g3/genesis 3. DK model could probably handle a genesis 5/g5, 3p500/3p600, or tar river saya.
I love my 3' esch for a heavy duty no-till drill for smaller tractors, only down side is it only plants 3' wide at a time. Pull type is a little more cumbersome in awkward small areas as well. But it plants great.
I love my 3' esch for a heavy duty no-till drill for smaller tractors, only down side is it only plants 3' wide at a time. Pull type is a little more cumbersome in awkward small areas as well. But it plants great.
Foggy47
5 year old buck +
One thing not talked about here.....is using the Tar River CONVENTIONAL 3 Point drill (no front slicing coulters) as a no-till drill in lighter soils. Good Youtube reviews on these units when used this way in sandy soils. (see the Back 40 on YouTube). This would be the lowest cost and lightest NEW 3 point drill discussed here.
After owning a Tar River SAYA 505 and now the GP 3P-500........I think I could get along with the Tar River 3 point Conventional drill for most everything. They don't have some of the refinementsof these other products.....but they are quite affordable and would work (in a fashion) much like the drill I own. .....though, I do feel the seed delivery and covering/packing system is superior on the other products.
Still......$10,000 is $10,000. About the price difference compared to the premium brands.
Kinda wish Mark from the The Back Forty would post a bit more on his experiences here. I know he lurks a bit. Nice guy.
After owning a Tar River SAYA 505 and now the GP 3P-500........I think I could get along with the Tar River 3 point Conventional drill for most everything. They don't have some of the refinementsof these other products.....but they are quite affordable and would work (in a fashion) much like the drill I own. .....though, I do feel the seed delivery and covering/packing system is superior on the other products.
Still......$10,000 is $10,000. About the price difference compared to the premium brands.
Kinda wish Mark from the The Back Forty would post a bit more on his experiences here. I know he lurks a bit. Nice guy.
Foggy47
5 year old buck +
Have you digested enough information to make a decision?
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If he is more interested in basic seeds like rye and brassicas that don't need to be in deep, you can get a brillion seeder or a seeder like this.
www.landpride.com
There was a guy selling one near me that would fit your tractor and he only wanted $1500 for it.
On facebook there's a woods ATV seed drill, 3 point with tow behind adapter. Might be able to low ball him, $5000 seems high. IN franklin, PA
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There was a guy selling one near me that would fit your tractor and he only wanted $1500 for it.
On facebook there's a woods ATV seed drill, 3 point with tow behind adapter. Might be able to low ball him, $5000 seems high. IN franklin, PA
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5 year old buck +
Not on facebook anymore. Be surprised if if didn't sell. It is in a coworker's town. He's back next week, he might know who it was.
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IT sold was a css48 seeder. Would of been perfect for smaller tractors. USed it to seed jobsites, mostly residental homes.
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I will talk to my coworker about taking picutres of what I helped him make. He took a 3 point disc and modified it. Put a few epth setting wheels to make sure the discs didn't till too deep. Them made a box wall setup for the discs. ONtop of the discs is a 12v spreader. The plywood walls divert the seed iniside the discs. He has added a tire drag since building it. Just like the old seed drill having rings to cover the disc openings. The coworker is a bt shy of roundup. Would be nice to have 2 spray jets behind the disc cultivator setup.
When I get to camp, I am binging back my tire drag. (3) 17 inch pickup truck tires. I am adding a series of eye bolts or tabs to make ratchet straps hold down some sectons of log easier. Then I am adding a mount for a single sprayer jet for roundup. I have a spare 3ft wide drop sprader I can add to the front of the ATV to drop rye n clover mixed together.
What are your goals here. Just a basc cereal grain n clover mix, or want to play around with various types of seed at various times of year? Providing basic food in a qulity maner can be done without a fancy seed drill. Once one has many acres to seed, the seed drill becomes affordable in terms of fertilizer and seed savings. IF you got a few acres, more basic stuff can be used, but use a bit more seed. Kinda thinking the line in the sand is about 10 acres of tillable land.
Almost think money can be better spent on a stump grinder than a seed drill in some people's circumstances.
When I get to camp, I am binging back my tire drag. (3) 17 inch pickup truck tires. I am adding a series of eye bolts or tabs to make ratchet straps hold down some sectons of log easier. Then I am adding a mount for a single sprayer jet for roundup. I have a spare 3ft wide drop sprader I can add to the front of the ATV to drop rye n clover mixed together.
What are your goals here. Just a basc cereal grain n clover mix, or want to play around with various types of seed at various times of year? Providing basic food in a qulity maner can be done without a fancy seed drill. Once one has many acres to seed, the seed drill becomes affordable in terms of fertilizer and seed savings. IF you got a few acres, more basic stuff can be used, but use a bit more seed. Kinda thinking the line in the sand is about 10 acres of tillable land.
Almost think money can be better spent on a stump grinder than a seed drill in some people's circumstances.
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