AberLasting White Clover

Joe Buck

5 year old buck +
I am in the Central Sands Region in Central Wisconsin.. Our soil is almost 100% sand. We currently have about 2 acres of Clover and Winter Rye. Clover is 9615- Med. Red Clover that has been doing okay for us. Have been doing some reading about AberLasting White Clover and thinking about adding some to our Clover plot this Fall. Wondering if anybody has tried it in sand country. Description says it is a cross between Caucasian Clover (Kuru) and White Clover enhancing the desirable characteristics of each type. A long lived perennial, fast growing, highly digestible and high in protein. Its wet and drought tolerant and is excellent with grazing tolerance. Due to its vigorous rhizomatic root system and superb stolen growth, Aberlasting White Clover is cold tolerant and can withstand overnight exposure to temperatures of -4 degrees and can survive down to - 22 degrees. It also retains leaf moisture far longer than any other white clover in dry periods.
 
Well I’m a long way from you in North MS but I’ve been planting and growing Aberlasting clover for several years. I was a strict Durana clover fan until I tried Aberlasting. Aberlasting clover is great. Aggressive grower and Drought tolerant. I’m planting some more this fall


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Well I’m a long way from you in North MS but I’ve been planting and growing Aberlasting clover for several years. I was a strict Durana clover fan until I tried Aberlasting. Aberlasting clover is great. Aggressive grower and Drought tolerant. I’m planting some more this fall


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What is your soil like? I'm also from north MS, but have sandy soil like the OP. Durana has been the only clover that I have had any luck with, but I've never heard of aberlasting. Might be something to look into.
 
Well I’m a long way from you in North MS but I’ve been planting and growing Aberlasting clover for several years. I was a strict Durana clover fan until I tried Aberlasting. Aberlasting clover is great. Aggressive grower and Drought tolerant. I’m planting some more this fall


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What improvement do you see over Durana?
 
I’m like the Dr being way south of you but I planted it in a mix on a new 4 ac plot last fall and it’s looking drear!
 
I can't speak to sand. I tried it a couple years ago. My soil is mostly clay but it seems to be doing well for me. My primary clover is Durana because of drought tolerance and persistence. We haven't had enough drought since I planted the Aberlasting to judge drought tolerance and it has not been long enough to judge persistence. I don't see much difference in deer use between it and Durana.
 
What is your soil like? I'm also from north MS, but have sandy soil like the OP. Durana has been the only clover that I have had any luck with, but I've never heard of aberlasting. Might be something to look into.

I’m in a river bottom with mostly clay somewhat poorly drained soils.


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What improvement do you see over Durana?

Aberlasting clover grows taller and has larger leaves than Durana. Here’s what really, really impressed me with Aberlasting clover. I had some hogs move in on one of my fields last year. They rooted up most of the field. Apparently the Aberlasting clover rhizomes and stolons attracted the hogs. I was sure that field was finished and I would have to start over but I was wrong. The Aberlasting clover bounced back and regrew and spread over the rooted areas. Can’t even tell anything happened to the field today. That was impressive. No way Durana would have bounced back from that…but then again I’ve never seen hogs root up a field of Durana like they did the Aberlasting.


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Aberlasting clover grows taller and has larger leaves than Durana. Here’s what really, really impressed me with Aberlasting clover. I had some hogs move in on one of my fields last year. They rooted up most of the field. Apparently the Aberlasting clover rhizomes and stolons attracted the hogs. I was sure that field was finished and I would have to start over but I was wrong. The Aberlasting clover bounced back and regrew and spread over the rooted areas. Can’t even tell anything happened to the field today. That was impressive. No way Durana would have bounced back from that…but then again I’ve never seen hogs root up a field of Durana like they did the Aberlasting.


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I have hogs graze durana everyday, but I have not noticed them rooting much in durana, either.
 
I have hogs graze durana everyday, but I have not noticed them rooting much in durana, either.
Same for us. Lots of hogs graze our Durana, but the only rooting has been on the edges of the plots where there were some piles of leaves, thatch or wood.
 
Been reading about this variety.....

........must it be so aberlasting expensive?

bill
 
Been reading about this variety.....

........must it be so aberlasting expensive?

bill
Much more expensive than common clovers on a per pound basis. Slightly more expensive than Durana. When it comes to comparing clover prices, I find persistence is a big factor. I haven't use Aberlasting long enough to speak to persistence, but I can with Durana. I find durana slower to establish, but once established, it lasts 3-5 years longer with the same maintenance routine before it needs rotated than ladino. I kind of amortize the seed cost over the life of the field.

Thanks,

Jack
 
Much more expensive than common clovers on a per pound basis. Slightly more expensive than Durana. When it comes to comparing clover prices, I find persistence is a big factor. I haven't use Aberlasting long enough to speak to persistence, but I can with Durana. I find durana slower to establish, but once established, it lasts 3-5 years longer with the same maintenance routine before it needs rotated than ladino. I kind of amortize the seed cost over the life of the field.

Thanks,

Jack
I agree. I plant 150 lbs per acre wheat at $36 and it doesnt last a year. Durana is $7 per lb, $35 per acre and it lasts five years if it doesnt get flooded.

The aberlasting would not be an option for me if hogs tend to root in it
 
I agree. I plant 150 lbs per acre wheat at $36 and it doesnt last a year. Durana is $7 per lb, $35 per acre and it lasts five years if it doesnt get flooded.

The aberlasting would not be an option for me if hogs tend to root in it

Last time I bought Durana, it was $5/lb from Harvey at Pudre valley. I get 7 to 10 years out of it, but I'm not nearly as far south as you.
 
Thanks to all of you for your response to Aberlasting White Clover. Since my first post I have talked to the Wildlife Specialist ( Jason Wenzel ) from Deer Creek Seed in Wisconsin. He has been growing it for 3 years now on his own plots in the Green Bay, Wis. area. Definetly much better soil than our sand. He is very confident that it will do well in our sand though. Maybe not as well as his fertile soil however. We are going to try some this late summer. We will overseed into our existing Red Clover using Throw & Mow . We will of course not know much this Fall other than how it germinated and established before our winter. We will keep you infomed of our results over the next couple of years. FYI : Jason was extremely helpful and more than willing to answer any questions.
 
Make sure you mix in some chicory and or alfalfa with it. That combo will ensure you have something even under dry conditions.
 
We will be adding some chicory to it as well. We tried frost seeding chicory this early spring / late winter and did not have good results. In fact we can't find but a few plants. Hopefully it will do better when we overseed in August. Thanks for the advice!
 
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