All Things Habitat - Lets talk.....
This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
Mn gun opener
- Thread starter SD51555
- Start date
Wind Gypsy
5 year old buck +
haha, I thought of this thread after they played "not to lose" again last night and lost just the same.
Wind Gypsy
5 year old buck +
Huh. surprise surprise, the deer slayers in my area (east central) were against late nov season 70% to 17%... Gotta give our area manager some credit, DNR has 157 down as one of the highest population density areas in the state yet its still in a Hunters Choice designation (1 deer either sex only) because people will shoot the piss out of anything they are allowed to. Was a 2 deer limit last year (1 either sex, one bonus doe available) and thus far my eyes and cameras tell me one year of bonus doe tags balanced the sex ratios nicely. Survey results show that the landowners are generally happy with the deer population and even open to a little higher pop. The regs match the survey, match the data, and generally match what I see with my eyes and ears talking to others.
Wind Gypsy
5 year old buck +
Just came across the boone and crockett 10 year trend layer on OnX. Paints a picture of how Northern MN has been trending compared to elsewhere.
Iffn any of you hosers thinks you can glean something from my waypoints, just know I haven't killed a deer in MN for over a decade.
Iffn any of you hosers thinks you can glean something from my waypoints, just know I haven't killed a deer in MN for over a decade.
Brian662
5 year old buck +
Glad to see all the counties I own property in are on the come up.
sandbur
5 year old buck +
It is hard to make any generalizations about Minnesota hunters with the very diverse habitat and traditions in the state. Add the line between rifle and shotgun zones as another variable.
There is no easy answer.
bwoods11
5 year old buck +
The guys I’ve talked to in my area are not happy at all about the deer season. Several have said it’s the fewest deer they have seen, some saw (0). One guy said his group went 0-5 and he never saw a deer in 7 days of hunting. He hunts a prime farm too !
It’s a cumulative effort of terrible management and tough winters ! You can’t keep adding seasons, weapons, tags, early doe, youth, crossbow etc… and expect positive results.
The only way it will change is for the DNR to make the necessary changes by cutting back on seasons and tags… changing season structure.
They should send the warning out now in the offseason and let us know we are forced to make serious changes.
The letters to editor from Zone 1 (Outdoor News) have been very negative. The season should be closed up there until the deer population recovers ! No excuses ! It’s ridiculous!
It’s a cumulative effort of terrible management and tough winters ! You can’t keep adding seasons, weapons, tags, early doe, youth, crossbow etc… and expect positive results.
The only way it will change is for the DNR to make the necessary changes by cutting back on seasons and tags… changing season structure.
They should send the warning out now in the offseason and let us know we are forced to make serious changes.
The letters to editor from Zone 1 (Outdoor News) have been very negative. The season should be closed up there until the deer population recovers ! No excuses ! It’s ridiculous!
Won't that simply shift more pressure south?
bwoods11
5 year old buck +
I suppose it will ? The other option is to vastly restrict buck tags, and no doe tags ? Shooting the few deer that are still alive is not a good solution, would you agree ?
yes
The herd in northern MN seems to be exactly what the MNDNR wants, no? Aren't they more interested in elk and moose up there than whitetails?
jsasker007
5 year old buck +
The DNR where I'm at in central Minnesota seems to be only concerned about the tribes and letting them take everything they want. Natives have ridiculous privileges that are not helping the overall picture at all. Is there anything done properly in Minnesota anymore that even makes sense? Nothing I can think of. SHIT SHOW
Wind Gypsy
5 year old buck +
Is there tribal hunting rights that extend outside of the new expanded res boundary?
jsasker007
5 year old buck +
Honestly don't know where they do their hunting but I have heard that they can take 1 deer per day all year long. Thank God they're too lazy to take full advantage. Mille Lacs Lake is the dead sea now thanks to the netting for decades now. They net most of the fish taken and do the majority before the fish can spawn and reproduce naturally and then the DNR restocks the Walleye every year with our tax dollars. After taking more tonnage than they should every year the average fisherman buying a license can keep 1 fish as long as it's withing the slot limits. Some years it's just a catch and release which kills the fish over half the time anyway. Governor Walz gave the tribe something like 61,000 more acres just a couple of years ago in his infinite wisdom. Minnesota will be the next California if Walz gets his way.
jsasker007
5 year old buck +
I believe the natives can catch and keep 3,000 lbs of fish per day per individual. I'm not a fan.
Wind Gypsy
5 year old buck +
I'm pretty familiar with the mille lacs issues, family members owned/operated a resort on the lake for many years. My aunt was the exec director for the board of tourism for something like a decade recently. I grew up spending my summers on the lake. The stress of the constant fight resulted in my aunt and uncle selling the resort and moving to the keys. That said, I'm not aware of any walleye stocking efforts in the big pond or significant (reported) tribal walleye take over the allotted quota. Reported take was under quota this year if I recall correctly.
Last edited:
SD51555
5 year old buck +
It's a national movement. All the right people are in place now to transfer as much land as possible back to the bands. I don't have a dog in the fight either way. I would never stake my fate on the good will of a crooked government agency or tribal council. Frankly, if I were them, I'd fight dirty until I got every acre back too.
Leech Lake Band of Ojibwe One Step Closer to Land Restoration With Public Map Release
Recent developments in the Leech Lake Band of Ojibwe Reservation Restoration Act and the land transfer could lead the federal government to being one step closer to righting a historical wrong. The…
lptv.org
28,000 acres return to Minnesota tribal ownership
Bois Forte Band of Chippewa Tribal Chair Cathy Chavers says the land in northern Minnesota will be used for hunting, fishing and gathering.
www.mprnews.org
Have a read through this.
https://landback.org/
Imagine, not one acre of state or federal land from Fargo to Hibbing because the politicians gave it away. That's gonna be the biggest 'see I told you so' moment of my life.
jsasker007
5 year old buck +
I'm just going by what my friends that own resorts and try to take people out fishing(guide service) have stated as what they see and hear and I've been living in the thick of it for my entire life. Watched it all from the very beginning to where it's at now. City slickers are pretty much ignorant to any actual facts about the tribe we have here. Just my opinion from where I'm sitting. Like I said, I'M NOT A FAN
