Bowsnbucks
5 year old buck +
How long does trit stay appealing to deer as forage - if left to mature stage?
Winter Triticale vs Winter Rye
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omicron1792
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Depends on if awnless or not. It awnless they will eat heads. If not like any grass once it gets leggy they don’t eat it.
SD51555
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I do mine around Aug 1st. Ben is a few hundred miles south of me and a zone warmer.
SD51555
5 year old buck +
I'm in northern MN, on the southern end of growing zone 3. Some maps show 4, some show 3. I've seen enough weather below -25, I use 3 as my guide.
Use your eyes to decide when to crimp. The spot I picked was when all the species were done growing, signified by all the flowers being dead and dried off. Here's a sequence of pics to show what I mean.
This was July 10th. Still in full bloom and full of life. Too early at this point.
This was July 20th, you can see some of the flowers are starting to dry off. The balansa is done, but the red and YSC are holding on.
August 4th. All the flowers are toast now, except for the chicory. Go time.
SD51555
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Bowsnbucks
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Last pic - you broadcast first - then roll, correct?? Lots of seed gets through all that dense, pre-roll greenery?
SD51555
5 year old buck +
Yes, broadcast first, then roll. There's a ton of duff, but it's all standing, and there's lots of shaking while it's getting rolled. Every oat I spread in there germinated. Believe me, if you do it while it's standing, it'll all find it's way through.
bigboreblr
5 year old buck +
Ive done pretty good with no-till oats too. Some time nature has been rough with poor rain.
Besides a few bags of plotspike forage feast with oats in it, I have only used whole feed oats. Several brands and several different stores, all worked fine. I do wonder if grain dryers mess up germination rates. Do dryer for seed take is slower and less hot? Done local feed whole wheat a few times, haven't looked like good results. Both no-till and lightly disc, then spread, then disc again, then pack. ATV discs no extra weight on them.
SD51555
5 year old buck +
That’s where dedicated seed comes into play. Government started allowing glyphosate desiccation of cereal grains in 2006. It’s allowed for human consumption, but not for seed production. It damages the germination rate. Thats how uniform drying is done in cereals.
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SD51555
5 year old buck +
I use it, and I try to use it as little as possible. I bought a quart of it about 6 years ago, and still have a little over a 1/3 left. I've got some plots that are starting to get away from me after about 5 years, and they'll need to be cleaned up a little. I don't suspect I'll use gly, but likely IMOX if I can figure out how to use it.
The key to everything I'm doing is always staying green. It takes a ton of thought to pull that off and still be able to rotate between crops. I've not gotten it totally figured out, but I'm really damn close.
Telemark
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That was a huge mistake. People should not be consuming glyphosate.
Bowsnbucks
5 year old buck +
Thought so - but wanted to check to be sure. Thanks gents!!
