Derek Reese 29
5 year old buck +
Does the trit grow as well as WR without a drill to aid in planting? Asking for all us solo-spreader types.
Winter Triticale vs Winter Rye
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There is 220ac of triticale on the farm this winter. Same area, farmer, plant date, surrounding ag.... Last year there a "wild night" would be 2 dozen deer....this year, with similar temps/precip it maybe 75. It is roughly the same skew for averages with 12-15 and 40ish. Not sure if last years first time planting needed palette approval or there was some big factor i was neglecting.....but it is a pretty big draw.
SD51555
5 year old buck +
For me, it performed the same. I've never drilled a seed on my place.
omicron1792
5 year old buck +
I go back and forth. Deer seem to prefer wheat a little more so thought is triticale is preferred more here. But honestly I think they like rye good enough.
Bowsnbucks
5 year old buck +
^ ^ ^ ^ Now I see what you mean by "past premium forage quality." At first, I thought you meant while it was still 4" to 12" or so, it somehow lost a lot of its nutrient appeal to deer. Gotcha now, SD. Thanks!
We have rolled rye down after we seeded brassicas into it for fall / winter plots. That rye worked great as a mulch over top.
We have rolled rye down after we seeded brassicas into it for fall / winter plots. That rye worked great as a mulch over top.
SD51555
5 year old buck +
For anyone wanting to try it, keep in mind it's just a bag of seed, and will do at least 80% of what any other cereal grain will also do. If you're curious, get a bag, carve out a place to use it, let'er rip and see what happens in your area. If you're in the trial mood, I'd also get a bag of awnless winter wheat. @Catscratch has been planting that for years and turned me on to it. I planted it once, and it did great for me, and it was fun to see the deer eat all the heads off.
When I was getting ready to roll last summer, I just noticed that the trit was taller and had thicker stems than rye. That's a big deal for me, may not be a big deal for someone else. My biggest end goal was having the heaviest high-carbon residue blanket possible. The rest of the considerations are secondary to me, but still important.
I have pondered trying @S.T.Fanatic 's winter barley. There's some risk it doesn't survive winter up by me, but I'm still curious about it. It won't hit my high biomass goal, but I've also got areas where I'm having trouble getting other cereals to go. Most importantly, I'm just naturally curious and I want to see what happens.
When I was getting ready to roll last summer, I just noticed that the trit was taller and had thicker stems than rye. That's a big deal for me, may not be a big deal for someone else. My biggest end goal was having the heaviest high-carbon residue blanket possible. The rest of the considerations are secondary to me, but still important.
I have pondered trying @S.T.Fanatic 's winter barley. There's some risk it doesn't survive winter up by me, but I'm still curious about it. It won't hit my high biomass goal, but I've also got areas where I'm having trouble getting other cereals to go. Most importantly, I'm just naturally curious and I want to see what happens.
SD51555
5 year old buck +
I went back to the archives and dug up my pre-roll pics from the yard plot. This is where my 'ah-ha' moment hit. The trit is in the black circles, the rye is in the blue circles. This is the height and stem thickness comparisons. It even outstretched the yellow sweet clover. In my original YSC plot, the YSC overtook the rye at the end.
SD51555
5 year old buck +
Yes, that is the YSC. That plot, I'm pretty sure I put in a per acre rate of:
1 bu/ac trit
1 bu/ac rye
1 lb YSC
1 lb alfalfa
1 lb balansa
1 lb chicory
That plot is a 1/10th acre plot just off my lawn at camp. That's gonna get expanded to a quarter acre this coming year if I get around to it. So on these smaller plots, I'm down to a cup or two of some of these seeds or less. If it's gonna be a small blend like that, I'll put a few pints of flax in as a carrier.
