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Whitetail Crabs 2026

Yes, planted mine in 2017. Nice producer for size, drops late September to early November for me in Southern Michigan. Naturally dwarf tree however. Tree on left is Droptine and right is 10 Point. There is a 30-06 to right out of the frame that is same size as DT, all planted same time. I just grafted up 10 more this spring, using the smaller size and early drop to my advantage. Planting them in close to an elevated blind, will draw deer in range for archery but they'll never get tall enough that I can't shoot over them (I hope) with a rifle.

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Looks like a great setup! Is that clover you have planted under them?
 
Looks like a great setup! Is that clover you have planted under them?
Supposed to be, with a cereal grain nurse crop. Very poor moisture after planting last year, and clover is not coming in well. Did frost seed some additional seed this spring, so we'll see. Might have to be redone this year.
 
10 point looks great. Sept-nov steady drop?

Those trees would be rubbed to snot without some protection at my place.

Grafted probably 1/4 to third of my trees 30-06 this year. Comparing rootstock on Franklin and 30-06 both home and camp.

I have 2 macouns one chestnut colored wood from local nursery. The other is like a dark chocolate bar for wood color from stark. Both fine roots likely b118. What's Terry's Macoun looks like wood wise.
 
10 point looks great. Sept-nov steady drop?

Those trees would be rubbed to snot without some protection at my place.

Grafted probably 1/4 to third of my trees 30-06 this year. Comparing rootstock on Franklin and 30-06 both home and camp.

I have 2 macouns one chestnut colored wood from local nursery. The other is like a dark chocolate bar for wood color from stark. Both fine roots likely b118. What's Terry's Macoun looks like wood wise.
Tough to say, I only pass these trees during season when hunting on an east wind and the camera only captures a fraction of the deer that visit.

If you look close there is about a 10" diameter 4' fence around the trunks for rub protection.
 
I'm having same issue as last years,my Whitetail crab trees,sheepsnose and gray ghost are dying at the end of limbs.I had 2 die completely last year looks like I will pull and replace with walmart trees.I have over 30 trees in this orchard and the ones from whitetail crabs are the only one doing this.Sucks that 2 years down the drain.Wonder why they are using different tags this year?
 
I'm having same issue as last years,my Whitetail crab trees,sheepsnose and gray ghost are dying at the end of limbs.I had 2 die completely last year looks like I will pull and replace with walmart trees.I have over 30 trees in this orchard and the ones from whitetail crabs are the only one doing this.Sucks that 2 years down the drain.Wonder why they are using different tags this year?
Strange. Is it too wet where you planted them? Late freezes?
 
I'm having same issue as last years,my Whitetail crab trees,sheepsnose and gray ghost are dying at the end of limbs.I had 2 die completely last year looks like I will pull and replace with walmart trees.I have over 30 trees in this orchard and the ones from whitetail crabs are the only one doing this.Sucks that 2 years down the drain.Wonder why they are using different tags this year?
We got frost twice last week. I noticed several of my pear trees leaves turning black and dying because of it. The only crabs it effected were two of My Whitetail Crabs Death Wish trees. These trees were planted last year , and just the new growth from this year was killed on top . This is the first time I've ever had this happen....
 
You guys may be seeing blossom blight. In lot's of years, fireblight will only affect the blossoms and nearby leaves - and not go deeper into the wood like it can in severe cases. That is pretty common where I live. I will even see minor occurrences on very resistant cultivars like Liberty and Enterprise. Less resistant varieties can get to looking really bad.
 
IMG_4257.jpgSpeaking of blights, and other joys

Check my East Texas Christmas ornament in spring

bill
 
View attachment 92187Speaking of blights, and other joys

Check my East Texas Christmas ornament in spring

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I kill every red cedar I find. I located a few more this winter when all the leaves had fallen. I'm hoping once they're all dead they will stop spreading.
 
You guys may be seeing blossom blight. In lot's of years, fireblight will only affect the blossoms and nearby leaves - and not go deeper into the wood like it can in severe cases. That is pretty common where I live. I will even see minor occurrences on very resistant cultivars like Liberty and Enterprise. Less resistant varieties can get to looking really bad.
That's possible....However the local news showed a vineyard in my town where the entire crop of grapes were wiped out due to frost when the temps got down to 29 degrees last week. My trees damage occurred during the same exact time frame. So in my case it's either frost or blossom blight...Or possibly wind damage ?. Only two of my three Death Wish trees were effected though. I should note the new growth shooting up on these two trees that were effected was very thin and spindly , the 3rd Death wish that was unaffected didn't have much new growth.

I'll try to take a picture asap
 
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I kill every red cedar I find. I located a few more this winter when all the leaves had fallen. I'm hoping once they're all dead they will stop spreading.
They serve a purpose in many instances - except where folks are trying/wanting to grow fruit trees. That orange, CAR jellyfish is not welcome around fruit trees.

View attachment 92187Speaking of blights, and other joys

Check my East Texas Christmas ornament in spring

bill
Good pic TreeDaddy. For those who've never seen one, that's the spore-bearing/fruiting body that spreads & brings us fruit growers CAR. It can appear on any juniper. Thanks for posting.
 
That's possible....However the local news showed a vineyard in my town where the entire crop of grapes were wiped out due to frost when the temps got down to 29 degrees last week. My trees damage occurred during the same exact time frame. So in my case it's either frost or blossom blight...Or possibly wind damage ?. Only two of my three Death Wish trees were effected though. I should note the new growth shooting up on these two trees that were effected was very thin and spindly , the 3rd Death wish that was unaffected didn't have much new growth.

I'll try to take a picture asap
Native Hunter I've ruled out wind damage. It's either frost or blossom blight like you said. What's weird is just two Death Wish Trees have it, and the third Death wish tree 20 yards away is unaffected. I also have 4 young trees planted this year in the same area that were not unaffected. I have weeds growing in my field that look like they are dying ,could blossom blight do that too ? or would you say frost ?. I took some pics , maybe you can tell , thanks for any info. 000_0003.JPG000_0004.JPG000_0002.JPG
 
Looks like classic fireblight symptoms to me
 
Looks like classic fireblight symptoms to me
Might be , but at the same time it occurred I saw on the news we had a frost that killed a grape crop near me.

It's one or the other Fireblight or Frost.

 
Might be , but at the same time it occurred I saw on the news we had a frost that killed a grape crop near me.

It's one or the other Fireblight or Frost.


I'm almost certain your pictures show fireblight, and on that third one it has gone well past the blossom into the new wood on this year's growth. Shown below is a tree in my yard that has a mild case of blossom blight like I was talking about earlier. This is on a Summer Champion cultivar, Note how that it got some of the blossoms but not all, and it doesn't go into the wood. You can see an apple on one blossom but blight on one nearby.

PS - I can't explain the weeds like you were talking about. Maybe that damage is something else.

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By watching a little closer this year than I normally do, I have figured out why some cultivars at my farm have not done as well for me as others. I'm not there much and not seeing what happens every day. A good example is Dozier Crab. I always see lots of flowers on it, but when I come back in several days the fruit set is very light. What's happening is blossom blight, and after a few days, you don't see the evidence because it only hit the blossoms and didn't go into the wood. After a few days, the blossom doesn't look all that different than one that didn't get fertilized.

Another tree that has been doing that is Virginia Crab, but this year it seems to be overcoming the problem better than it has before. It actually has a decent fruit set even though several blossoms still got destroyed. I have believed for a long time that as trees get older they can gain some resistance to fireblight. I think that is what is happening to the Virginia Crab this year.

My neighbor had a Milam Apple with blight one year that I would have sworn would not live. It went deep into 2 year old wood on every limb. However, the tree survived and looks pretty good now. After that year I never saw it that bad again.

The most resistant tree I grow is Priscilla, and there are several others not far behind.
 
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I had 2 die last year that were gray ghost and sheepsnose,I thought they were supposed to be blight resistant but out of 40 trees from 5 different nurseries these were the only 4 affected.
 
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