Trump 2025

Lots of folks working on it.....Stay tuned. I've seen this posted on X and by several sources on Facebook (and X). Lots of sources posting similar stuff lately......it will be interesting what shakes out. Some have said with allot of the ballots mailed out (due to covid) so there was lots of illegal ballot harvesting and lots of illegal activity to push the Biden vote. I have simply done a copy and paste that comes from a guy I know that is attuned to this stuff.

The numbers are plausible......and I would like an explanation if they are in fact "real". The 2020 election had lots of questionable and seemingly fraudulent activities......and lots of distrust....which led in part to the "insurrection" of Jan 6...and put allot of good people behind bars.....whom thought they were being patriots. Also cost lots of people most of their wealth and reputation. I think we owe those folks some answers.

EDIT: Then too.....during this same sequence of events....there was the PROVEN laptop from hell event that was lied about by our trusted CIA government officials. Which threw fuel on the fire. I dont know who knew what to beleive in those times. It was chaotic. Which of those letter writing, Russian disinformation assholes have been prosecuted for lying to the public??? Name one. That is real filthy and rotten politics.
 
Lots of folks working on it.....Stay tuned. I've seen this posted on X and by several sources on Facebook (and X). Lots of sources posting similar stuff lately......it will be interesting what shakes out. Some have said with allot of the ballots mailed out (due to covid) so there was lots of illegal ballot harvesting and lots of illegal activity to push the Biden vote. I have simply done a copy and paste that comes from a guy I know that is attuned to this stuff.

The numbers are plausible......and I would like an explanation if they are in fact "real". The 2020 election had lots of questionable and seemingly fraudulent activities......and lots of distrust....which led in part to the "insurrection" of Jan 6...and put allot of good people behind bars.....whom thought they were being patriots. Also cost lots of people most of their wealth and reputation. I think we owe those folks some answers.

EDIT: Then too.....during this same sequence of events....there was the PROVEN laptop from hell event that was lied about by our trusted officials. Which of those assholes have been prosecuted for lying to the public? That is real filthy and rotten.
I've asked before and the numbers in the answer weren't adequate. Where does a person/people get 28,000,000 fake ballots? There aren't even enough dead people to cover that number.
 
Not following how this works. When I voted, in Wisconsin, I marked my ballot and then stuck it into the tabulator. It sucked the ballot in and counted my votes. How can the "Officials" change what I marked on the ballot?

Where did you hear the interview, I'd like to listen to it.
It's all the early and mail in votes. They don't change anything on your ballot. They intentionally slow the count down so they can gauge how many votes their side needs. The only reason it didn't happen this time is because Trump was far enough past the "cheat" line . It was on the radio 1130 wisn.
As far as where they found the extra votes? In 2020, in Wisconsin alone there were 250,000 names on the voter roles of dead, or relocated voters. Should have been purged but the Democrats blocked it. Wonder where the extra votes could have come from?hmmm
 
I've asked before and the numbers in the answer weren't adequate. Where does a person/people get 28,000,000 fake ballots? There aren't even enough dead people to cover that number.
If no one is allowed to investigate it's quite easy I would suspect
 
If no one is allowed to investigate it's quite easy I would suspect
You and I both know that Wisconsin hired a conservative ex-supreme court justice and paid him and his staff a million dollars to find the fraud and they couldn't find it. They were allowed to investigate.
 
It's all the early and mail in votes. They don't change anything on your ballot. They intentionally slow the count down so they can gauge how many votes their side needs. The only reason it didn't happen this time is because Trump was far enough past the "cheat" line . It was on the radio 1130 wisn.
As far as where they found the extra votes? In 2020, in Wisconsin alone there were 250,000 names on the voter roles of dead, or relocated voters. Should have been purged but the Democrats blocked it. Wonder where the extra votes could have come from?hmmm
Even if every state had 250k extra votes from dead or relocated voters you're still 15,500,000 votes short. And remember all those votes need a ballot for the opposition.
 
Anything can be a conspiracy with the right amount of hand-waving away of any evidence that doesn't support your claim.

I think we need to define some terms here. Is it a conspiracy if it's out in the open? Is it a conspiracy "theory" if it's out in the open?

I don't understand how anyone can look at the facts of the Hillary servers, Epstein murder, Biden laptop, Trump conviction, and not understand there was a conspiracy behind it. Am I a conspiracy theorist because the conspiracies have not been proven?

It is a fallacy to assert that these conspiracies would require hundreds or thousands of people working in league to pull them off. That's just not the case. You really only need a few powerful people to pull off a conspiracy, and the hundreds or thousands of people involved will go along willingly or ignorantly because they think they're doing the right thing, ESPECIALLY if the conspiracy involves influence over the media. There was so much misinformation intentionally spread by the MSM that they don't even need to overwhelm the people because confirmation bias will cause the people who already are anti-Trump to believe the anti-Trump misinformation.

Another fallacy is shaming people for believing there is a conspiracy due to a lack of proof. It's very hard to come up with proof of anything, which is why we tend to use the word evidence. There is strong evidence, though it may be circumstantial, that there is a lot of behind-the-scenes chicanery in these controversial and high-profile events.

There is also the probability that powerful people are scrubbing much of that evidence from places like Youtube and were de-platforming individuals on places like Twitter.

If we are going to debate in good faith, we should not to use fallacious arguments to try to overpower people who disagree with us, but rather focus purely on the facts and the credibility of those facts.
 
Not following how this works. When I voted, in Wisconsin, I marked my ballot and then stuck it into the tabulator. It sucked the ballot in and counted my votes. How can the "Officials" change what I marked on the ballot?

I don't think anyone here is claiming that "officials changed ballots." The claim seems to be that there were additional fraudulent votes cast.
 
Where my head goes is, was Biden such a motivator of voters that he seriously got that many MILLIONS of more people to vote compared to any other candidate in our lifetimes? Come on…this is a classic Occam’s razor scenario. I have any easier time believing fraud than I do he was so inspiring.
 
Where my head goes is, was Biden such a motivator of voters that he seriously got that many MILLIONS of more people to vote compared to any other candidate in our lifetimes? Come on…this is a classic Occam’s razor scenario. I have any easier time believing fraud than I do he was so inspiring.
Probably somewhere in the middle. Millions of fraud votes coupled with that being the time of peak tranny and their sympathizers, and soft people were mad about mean tweets.
 
Probably somewhere in the middle. Millions of fraud votes coupled with that being the time of peak tranny and their sympathizers, and soft people were mad about mean tweets.
I’d agree about the motivation, but the amount of hate and negative rhetoric surrounding Trump this go round should have produced unheard of numbers if that was the catalyst for voter numbers

According to the left this was the end of democracy as we know it. Everything was on the line for the future of this country…but I giess Biden’s dynamic speeches were more inspiring to voters on the left.
 
I’d agree about the motivation, but the amount of hate and negative rhetoric surrounding Trump this go round should have produced unheard of numbers if that was the catalyst for voter numbers

According to the left this was the end of democracy as we know it. Everything was on the line for the future of this country…but I giess Biden’s dynamic speeches were more inspiring to voters on the left.

There were so many unprecedented things that happened during the campaign.

First, it wasn't Biden who ran, but Kamala. And no one actually voted for her in the primary, and few people probably would have. She made a fool of herself in the first year of the term, and was basically hidden from view for the next 2 and a half years. She talks like a complete moron, she insulted Jesus Christ and Christians at a rally, she admitted that last few years were a failure.

From Trumps side, he really changed from 4 years ago. People were really able to compare the 4 years with him in office juxtaposed with the next 4 years of Biden and Harris. People are out of money, and they want Trump back because Trumps main platform issue is the economy. He actually has an articulable plan for the economy as well. Then he reacted bravely after GETTING SHOT, with an iconic photograph that captured the moment forever.

We've really just never seen anything like this before. The last time we had anything close was probably the 1960s, and what we are seeing politically and socially is not far off from what the country experienced back then.
 
I’d agree about the motivation, but the amount of hate and negative rhetoric surrounding Trump this go round should have produced unheard of numbers if that was the catalyst for voter numbers

According to the left this was the end of democracy as we know it. Everything was on the line for the future of this country…but I giess Biden’s dynamic speeches were more inspiring to voters on the left.
The amount of hate for Trump was a concoction of the left and msm. Mostly fake
 
You and I both know that Wisconsin hired a conservative ex-supreme court justice and paid him and his staff a million dollars to find the fraud and they couldn't find it. They were allowed to investigate.
If you really believe that then no amount of facts will be able to sway you
 
Even if every state had 250k extra votes from dead or relocated voters you're still 15,500,000 votes short. And remember all those votes need a ballot for the opposition.
Who said every state only had 250,000? I'm sure states like New York and California have millions,. No I don't know that for sure, but the numbers sure do seem to show just that
 
This stuff is exhausting.

One of the reasons conspiracies work is that it is a bunch of “what if’s” and “maybe’s” wrapped up in some “it sounds like it could be true”, stoked by an unsourced meme that “proves” it.

What’s even worse is when a conspiracy theory really takes root, it never really goes away. Even after it’s as completely disproved (and a good lie is tough to disprove). This bs is durable. It can be morphed. It comes back in a slightly better form to combat how it was disproved. It never goes away.

What ends up happening is otherwise smart people go out and “do their own research”, find more of the bs to “prove” what they wanted to believe in the first place. Aaaaaaaaaand they get the shit manipulated out of them and claim “the other side is brainwashed”. Guess what, m-effers, “the other side” has their own conspiracies cooking because of all the above. You just don’t see it because the algorithms have identified you as vulnerable to Bullshit A so thats what they feed you. Those Socialists On The Other Side are getting Bullshit Version B. How many versions are there? Probably more than there are letters in the alphabet.

Right after the election, it went around that the Main South African cooked voter machines (or was it tabulators) with his fleet of satellites. The Main South African then crashed the satellites into the atmosphere to burn up the evidence. (Y’know because otherwise those crafty Democrats would get subpoenas and search warrants, go into space and snag his satellites as evidence.) This is all “proven” by the Main South African “looking at an app on his phone that gave him the election results” early in the evening. He put his phone away, saying ominously “it’s over”. The purveyors of this particular nonsense, oops I mean “theory”, implored the Democrats to investigate this because the election had obviously been stolen. Now let’s pretend I believe this. Please prove it wrong. Prove that our main man didn’t do this. Come up with “evidence” and “facts” that prove to ME that this didn’t happen. Y’know, because somehow I think its your job to prove to me that the batshit crazy stuff in my head is your job to disprove.

Well, you can’t. It can’t be disproven. And I just gave oxygen to another piece of bs. This one didn’t take root. Maybe it will eventually. Wouldn’t that be awesome. I’ll feel really smart. I’ll feel like I knew something everyone else didn’t know. I will be…. Entertained.

I’ll just sit over here like a dumbass and wait for this one to “come true.”
 
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Where my head goes is, was Biden such a motivator of voters that he seriously got that many MILLIONS of more people to vote compared to any other candidate in our lifetimes? Come on…this is a classic Occam’s razor scenario. I have any easier time believing fraud than I do he was so inspiring.
I know many people who were tired of Trump in 2020 and ready for a change, these were people who voted for him in 2016. That's just how politics works. People were mad about covid, the economy, mean tweets, etc.

I was mad about the total lack of fiscal conservatism from him, BS speeches about eliminating the debt which BALLOONED during his tenure.

It's not far fetched at all that there were as many or more votes cast against HIM than for Biden. Trump himself said numerous times at his rallies for his supporters not to vote early because it would be rigged. So it's no wonder that most of the mail in ballots came in against him in 2020.

Trump lost in 2020, he knows he lost in 2020. He appears to have learned SOME lessons from it, let's all hope he has a successful four years and move on. America first is a winning slogan and winning policy. LFG.
 
Trump will have a great 4 years if he can get some support from both sides and not be fought every step of the way. jmo
 
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