Throw and grow?

[Brian662]

So here is a mix of seed that I have already bought individually and planned to plant this weekend.
The mix and ratios seem fine and I'm happy with it, especially when/where I'm able to drill it in.

Where the problem lies and my subsequent question...I have a row planted soybean field that was planted into heavy(ish) rye thatch and on this property I don't have access to a drill at the moment. I'm planning to broadcast into the canopied soybeans that have a layer of rye that under them.

There is some rain the forecast, not a lot. Soil moisture is good due to double crop canopy. Which of these seeds would be likely to succeed by just broadcasted into the beans? I don't want to roll the beans to pack the seed because I feel the stalks may break this late in the year.

Any other ideas on getting some version of these seeds to grow? I can increase/decrease rates as necessary.

At this point I'm thinking - rye, balansa, chicory, crimson, radish, vetch, and buckwheat. This would exclude the peas and oats. Thoughts?

 

[Stubborn1VT]

I would agree with your thinking. The canopy should help in the short term.

We are dry here and I'm considering waiting to plant anything until this weather pattern changes.

 

[SD51555]

When do you expect your beans to start dropping leaves?

 

[Brian662]

When do you expect your beans to start dropping leaves?

Yellowing in one to two weeks, dropping by late September to early Oct.

 

[T-Max]

Yellowing in one to two weeks, dropping by late September to early Oct.

Are your pods filled out already? Mine have beans in them, but they are very small. I know I am South of you a long ways, but if mine start yellowing soon they won't make much of a bean at all.

 

[Brian662]

Are your pods filled out already? Mine have beans in them, but they are very small. I know I am South of you a long ways, but if mine start yellowing soon they won't make much of a bean at all.

I'll check today and let you know. A week ago they were smallish. We could use a rain. Mine were 1.9 beans planted first week of June on 15" rows.

 

[T-Max]

Mine were 4.0.

 

[T-Max]

We still have about 45 days to first frost. I did get mine in a little late. Hopefully they have enough time yet.

 

[Brian662]

I wouldn't be worried if I were you.

You going to overseed them with anything?

 

[T-Max]

I wouldn't be worried if I were you.

You going to overseed them with anything?

They got radish, turnip, kale and rape far too early (month ago?)... They got oats Wednesday. I have a camera in the section of the field in front of my blind and the activity is dead the last couple of weeks. When I spread oats Wednesday I could barely walk through it. It was belly button high and a completely tangled mess. Today that area in front of my blind is getting more oats, radish, winter peas, and MRC. I am going to mow down 1/3 acre of the beans on top along with strips through the rest to help movement. My dad says I am crazy, but they aren't using that section at all and it's the one I really need them to use for bow season. That will leave more than 2 acres of standing beans with another acre of milo in the field.

 

[bigboreblr]

I have no experience with balansa clover. Not seeing much that would overwinter where I live. Might want to add rye to it.

Think the peas and vetch will make it under the thatch?

Might want t oconsider plan B if plan A doesn't germinate right. Like maybe buying etra oats separate. No till oats do ok by me in decent rainfall years. NEver any luck over wintering though far as I recall.

 

[T-Max]

Got it done. Probably too much thatch to be honest. They were at least belly button high most places. They will dry down a lot, but I’m not sure…

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[SD51555]

Yellowing in one to two weeks, dropping by late September to early Oct.

If the forecast is dry, get them out there sooner in case they lay for a week or more before germinating. If they get sun within a couple weeks of germinating, they should be fine.


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[SD51555]

Got it done. Probably too much thatch to be honest. They were at least belly button high most places. They will dry down a lot, but I’m not sure…

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If you’ve got a way to press some flat, I’d do a strip or two to see what happens. If it’s not a full blown crimper, I’d wanna see if the beans finish after being flattened. And I’d try it in your thick beans.

You might find they do finish and you get your next crop up better.


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[Brian662]

Are your pods filled out already? Mine have beans in them, but they are very small. I know I am South of you a long ways, but if mine start yellowing soon they won't make much of a bean at all.

Most of the plants have the bottom 3 or 4 pods full, and the upper 15-20 are still empty. The beans are anywhere from knee to waist high in my 4 acre field.

On my jointly owned property nearby we have a 3.5 acre field and the deer have hammered the beans (planted same day) to the point they're ankle to shin height. Last week they were knee high or taller, there's been 20 deer in that field every night.

 

[Brian662]

If the forecast is dry, get them out there sooner in case they lay for a week or more before germinating. If they get sun within a couple weeks of germinating, they should be fine.


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Ok, that's kind of what I was thinking as well. As I mentioned in my previous post, the deer hammered one field of beans nearly down to the dirt so the bean canopy is gone but we don't have rain in the forecast for a few days yet. It might be a waste of seed, but I'm going to throw some down and hope for the best.

 

[T-Max]

Our weather is so hot or miss, I always plant when I can and hope for the best. If I try to time it, I am ALWAYS a day late…


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