Sweet November Applecrab

[Teeder]

This one has completely gone under my radar, but the description sounds perfect for me.
Anyone have experience with them?

Sweet November Crab™

Sweet November begins dropping during the beginning of November, its fruit hangs well and has a slow drop lasting well into January

bluehillwildlifenursery.com

 

[Bowsnbucks]

This one has completely gone under my radar, but the description sounds perfect for me.
Anyone have experience with them?

Sweet November Crab™

Sweet November begins dropping during the beginning of November, its fruit hangs well and has a slow drop lasting well into January

bluehillwildlifenursery.com

We planted one last year at camp. Too small to give any verdict on it. The description of it is what led me to buy it for camp. Hoping it's a dandy! Good luck with it if you get one.

 

[Teeder]

We planted one last year at camp. Too small to give any verdict on it. The description of it is what led me to buy it for camp. Hoping it's a dandy! Good luck with it if you get one.

Thanks, Bows!

 

[Dantana]

I've planted a couple at camp in Zone 5. Still too young. Have actually been pretty slow growers. Most likely due to my poor soils. But the description hooked me as well. Excited to see how they produce down the road.

 

[Bowsnbucks]

Thanks, Bows!

Our camp isn't far from you as the crow flies, Teeder. Couple counties away. We're in NW Lyco. mountains. Climate & temps. probably very similar. Thought Sw. Nov. was worth a shot.

 

[Teeder]

I have a couple ordered from BHN.

 

[Bowsnbucks]

I just ordered another Sw. Nov. and another Turning point from BHN. We lost on apple tree, and we have a bit of open space for another one - so next Spring - in they go. Replace the one we lost + a new one. Been planting these since 2013 - hoping the next generation at camp will enjoy the apples to eat, and the deer they draw in. I think these will make 84 or 85 apple & crab apple trees total. That ought to hold 'em!!!

 

[MW22392]

I just ordered another Sw. Nov. and another Turning point from BHN. We lost on apple tree, and we have a bit of open space for another one - so next Spring - in they go. Replace the one we lost + a new one. Been planting these since 2013 - hoping the next generation at camp will enjoy the apples to eat, and the deer they draw in. I think these will make 84 or 85 apple & crab apple trees total. That ought to hold 'em!!!

Wow that’s awesome, what state? What’s your experience with bears? I planted 50 pears, apples and persimmon from them two springs ago, which I anticipate starting to produce next year. I plan to pull all the fruit off the first two or three years. I have 5’ tall 1.5’ cages around them, but I think they can easily climb that if they wanted to.

 

[KY wild]

I just ordered another Sw. Nov. and another Turning point from BHN. We lost on apple tree, and we have a bit of open space for another one - so next Spring - in they go. Replace the one we lost + a new one. Been planting these since 2013 - hoping the next generation at camp will enjoy the apples to eat, and the deer they draw in. I think these will make 84 or 85 apple & crab apple trees total. That ought to hold 'em!!!

I also have a question, are you picking these two trees because of the great history with these 2 trees and if so what characteristics do you like about them above the other 80 plus trees that you currently have planted?

 

[bigboreblr]

I don't have any bluehill trees. They got alot of nice crabd though. What 2 would you guys pick out of the herd? IF the scio nexchange pans out well, I hope to get some turning point. That roadkill crab always catches my eye. Probably just like the name.

 

[Bowsnbucks]

Wow that’s awesome, what state? What’s your experience with bears? I planted 50 pears, apples and persimmon from them two springs ago, which I anticipate starting to produce next year. I plan to pull all the fruit off the first two or three years. I have 5’ tall 1.5’ cages around them, but I think they can easily climb that if they wanted to.

Pa. The region our camp is in is loaded with bears. Other than seeing them, I'd rather they weren't around. They can be very destructive - and have been - at our camp and surrounding camp properties. Younger bears especially, are curious and will "play" with just about anything they come across. Even when no fruit is on the trees, bears will reach up and pull down lower limbs they can reach - so food isn't the attraction. They've torn lids off big chest freezers with nothing in them. (The freezers are outside of cabins for deer season food storage when it's cold outside - not powered.) Siding has been clawed-up and ruined. Camp gas grills with food smells in them have been completely torn APART, pieces scattered for hundreds of yards. Firewood piles destroyed in the search for ants or termites ........ the list goes on. If you plant fruit trees or food plots for deer - you don't want bears, trust me.

Our goal has been to "outplant" the bears in a way, planting mainly apple & crab apple trees that are on standard, full-size rootstocks so our trees will grow big and woody. If we can grow them big enough to withstand bears climbing them without destroying them, we'll be good with that. We already have some OLD apple trees that are big & woody, and bears climbing them may break a limb or 2, but the trees are still healthy & productive. We just need to grow a number of our newer trees big enough. We also use 5 ft. tall concrete re-mesh cages about 3 to 4 ft. in diameter to keep the deer off as they grow. As the trees grow, we prune off the lowest limbs so the lowest ones are 6 ft. or higher above ground to avoid reaching critters - deer or bears.

 

[rocksnstumps]

Bears are such a pain. The more you have food available, the more "they will come". Sows with cubs are the worst. Only had that problem one year when planted young oaks had a flush of acorns and fruit trees were doing good. So they tore the crap outta a bunch of trees and busted off some of the non oaks. The 20-25 ft oaks were bent over so tops touched the ground but did not break. At least oak is tough. For that reason have not planted hybrids that might yield too early. Need a stout trunk in bear turf before you want to see fruit or acorns. Sucks, but do what you can to get big trees like Bows mentions.

Back to OP. Might have to look at getting sweet November or two for plantn. I put a few trees on a buddies land every year for letting me birdie hunt with muttley over there.

 

[Diesel5610]

I have several of the Turning Point but they haven’t fruited yet. I have a roadkill and Ed’s Crazy crab that I just planted last year that are looking good. The two that I have had in the ground 4 or 6 years are Grahm’s Gift and Primetime crabs. They are both throwing good apples and they are slowly dropping right now in western NY. This is a PrimeTime that I thought was too big for the bears to knock over. Wrong! Still had good roots anchoring and I was able to get it back up and tied to stakes, hopefully it survives. Bigger than the picture looks, the trunk was the size of my biceps and very strongly anchored. Picture was a few days ago.

 

[Diesel5610]

This is a Grahm’s Gift that is 30 feet away and not as big. They left it alone and I promptly knocked the apples off,

 

[bigboreblr]

This is a Grahm’s Gift that is 30 feet away and not as big. They left it alone and I promptly knocked the apples off,

hope that tree recovers. I plucked all my flowers off my trees this years except a handful on a tree or two. Likely going to get some chemical thinning in 2026. Might be too much work after next year

 

[Bowsnbucks]

I have several of the Turning Point but they haven’t fruited yet. I have a roadkill and Ed’s Crazy crab that I just planted last year that are looking good. The two that I have had in the ground 4 or 6 years are Grahm’s Gift and Primetime crabs. They are both throwing good apples and they are slowly dropping right now in western NY. This is a PrimeTime that I thought was too big for the bears to knock over. Wrong! Still had good roots anchoring and I was able to get it back up and tied to stakes, hopefully it survives. Bigger than the picture looks, the trunk was the size of my biceps and very strongly anchored. Picture was a few days ago.

Helpful info on your trees & ripening / drop times. Many of us here in the NE can use your info as a guide for our own trees. Our camp has Turning Point, Sweet November, and Roadkill as well - planted last spring. Thanks for posting, Diesel5610!!

 

[Gravel Road]

My Roadkill fruited for the first time this year (planted 2021) and has several dozen on it. Still holding as of today. I've already grafted a few more, as it seems to be growing great. No fruit on Turning Point planted in 2021.

 

[Derek Reese 29]

My roadkill planted spring 2022 had a couple dozen apples this year and while not that tall (maybe 7’) just finished dropping them in a high wind this week..up to when they dropped they had good tart flavor.

 

[bigboreblr]

bowsnbucks,

Glad to see your still in the aple game despite the bear setbacks. Pruning agressively makes them put some bulk on. Icut back a 30-06 probably 50% of its growth, aw well as my crossbow. Only planted in fall of 2022, but some branches has been imressive.

I got 3 identical glalarinas plnted in the spring. Perhaps I should over prune, prune as normal, and under prune those 3. Was going to prune normal, barely prune, and not prune as a comparison.

 

[Bowsnbucks]

My roadkill planted spring 2022 had a couple dozen apples this year and while not that tall (maybe 7’) just finished dropping them in a high wind this week..up to when they dropped they had good tart flavor.

How big are the apples, Derek? Ours are too young to fruit - probably get some in another year or 3.