We have a political system that allows for diverse viewpoints to be negotiated. When we are divided to the point where folks on both sides lose confidence in the system, we do risk tribalism where might makes right. The more we accentuate the internal divide rather than recognizing the external threat and band together, the more likely the grand experiment is to fail in our lifetimes.
The two sides are us and them. Of course, who comprises us and who comprises them depends on your point of view.
That was many Joe Biden’s ago. On the campaign he literally said he was coming for your AR-14. NY politicians, constantly talk about taking guns, registering guns, taxing guns, taxing ammunition. The safe act put some limits on, the next safe act will go further. Felons already can’t own guns, but god damn they keep breaking the law. I can’t imagine they would do that. I know you won’t watch Fox News but there is this thing going on where big city DA’s don’t prosecute criminals for anything short of murder. There is a rapper who has been arrested a few times now on gun charges, each time he is released without bail. Last week he shot a cop. I can’t believe he keeps breaking the law. In case you weren’t aware violent felons and mental cases don’t follow the law.
I'll narrow it down. Ray Dalio said he fears we're heading for an actual civil war here. (as I mentioned in post #1443) If a shooting civil war happens - our economy WILL collapse. If the market tanks by billions of dollars - on any given day - over an oil price rise, or interest rates changing, or a military action somewhere else in the world .............. what do we think will happen if we Americans start shooting at each other?? Do any of us really think everything will remain stable and unchanged??
I'm NOT in favor of that!!! I want to see crooks punished / locked up. ALL CROOKS - the WHITE COLLAR VARIETY as well. And I'm not shocked that criminals will break the law, either. So why are some gun laws so lax that permits are not even required in some states, based on news from some of those states?? Why in God's name can repeat violent criminals still go into a gun shop and buy a gun?? Several shootings around the country in the past couple years have been by convicted felons who bought guns LEGALLY and then went on to shoot someone else. Does that sound like a good system?? That's not even taking into account black market guns and the "self-print", untraceable varieties. Where does sense enter the picture??
Asking calmly .......... how do we fix that?? Having unregistered guns makes them basically secret, right?? How do we keep track of guns so that the "bad guys" can't get them??
So which side you on. I just can’t imagine AOC with a rifle but, hey if you want to side up with that go ahead
Survival tip. Move all your money now to a Swiss bank account. If your side still uses US currency and wins you might not lose everything.
Agree 100%. Business and the investment community love stability. But divided government means nothing gets done, since each side is trenched-in. Things like our outdated power grid, lack of cybersecurity, rotting bridges and water systems, crumbling roads, sewer systems leaking .......... all suffer and get more & more expensive as the years go by. I agree with your point that the center-lefts and center-rights have to carry the day for anything to get done. The "centers" aren't so far apart when asked their goals & priorities.
She's too far out to the left for me - just as some are way too far right for me.
It is a felony for a felon to attempt to buy a gun in all 50 states. I bet you cant site one case where a convicted felon went into a gun store and purchased a gun. If that happened the gun store owner would be behind bars. My uncle owns a gun store. When you fill out the yellow form it is a felony for you to do so if you are a felon. Every time that happens it sends up a red flag at the ATF And the sale is denied. What is suppose to happen from there is they track down the person and arrest them. Unfortunately very few people who commit gun crimes are prosecuted for attempting to buy a gun, but they do not get the gun. I am kind of shocked you don’t know how the gun laws are suppose to work. You must have bought a gun in the last 20 years. Bad guys get guns from other bad guys. Most are stolen. Unfortunately it is nearly impossible to stop the first time bad guy from buying the gun. The FBI was tip off on a couple of the most recent shootings and they still did nothing. I don’t have an answer other than prosecute when you have the chance.
I don’t know, you seem pretty convinced it’s going to happen. By the way, you’re side is the AOC side. Just think about that for a while. if there only 2 sides I mean. Also , no beer and no meat. Your going to lose everything remember
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I meant in place of shooting at each other.
When recent polls by a number of reputable polling entities reported that about 70% of Americans say a shooting civil is justified - it's not me making those numbers. I'm listening to what the polls are saying and looking at the tracks as to where / how this all started. When those large numbers from several pollsters are pointing in the same direction - Yep - I think it may happen.
Exactly. With recent refusals to run for re-election by moderates on both sides, it seems the tribalism you pointed out is getting worse.
How do ideas get discussed when one side posts things like "F-ing idiot" or some other name-calling outburst?? How does that add to anything?? A discussion or exchange of ideas takes more than an explosive outburst ...... right???
