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[Bowsnbucks]

......and another thing (lol)

Capitalism is imperfect, no doubt. But capitalism and capitalism only has led to remarkable economic growth and a rise in our standard of living. It’s produced wealth unimaginable just 200 years ago and product creation in so rapid a pace that the size of a computer dropped 99 percent in just four decades, while simultaneously becoming many orders of magnitude more powerful.

No doubt. I'd like to know, though, how engineers who actually have the knowledge to come up with those cutting-edge technologies, get shafted with a $10,000 to $80,000 bonus - while the CEO walks away with $20 - $50 - $100 million or more ..... for "his" genius??? I've read articles of pharmaceutical researchers getting a $50,000 bonus on top of their $150,000 to $200,000 salary for finding cures and treatments for various diseases & conditions that earned their company $$$billions. The CEO's and top executives got millions in bonuses & stock options ...... when the one(s) doing the actual "finding / inventing" got a pittance, relative to what the mahogany office-dwellers got. Such successes are team efforts, are they not?? So why does 99% of the team get cookie crumbs - if anything - and the 1% get all the gravy?? IMO - 70/30, or 65/35 would be fairer. It's still capitalism ......... just wouldn't be "hoggism" as much.

 

[Buckly]

I don’t believe it’s your place to tell someone or some company how much money they should make. Also your statements are just too vague. You say they’re making way too much but you’re not throwing out a figure that they should make so obviously you’re not qualified to tell companies how to run their business.

 

[Howboutthemdawgs]

I don’t believe it’s your place to tell someone or some company how much money they should make. Also your statements are just too vague. You say they’re making way too much but you’re not throwing out a figure that they should make so obviously you’re not qualified to tell companies how to run their business.

It’s the socialist manifesto. It doesn’t have to make economical sense

 

[Bowsnbucks]

I don’t believe it’s your place to tell someone or some company how much money they should make. Also your statements are just too vague. You say they’re making way too much but you’re not throwing out a figure that they should make so obviously you’re not qualified to tell companies how to run their business.

Not saying how much they should make. Just thinking the CEO's shouldn't get all the gravy. Companies are "teams" of people, and many of those who apply their knowledge and skills aren't being compensated fairly. The CEO's don't find cures to diseases - the researchers do. The engineers discover new technologies - the CEO's don't typically.

If we ask all the working people of this country if they think they're being paid fairly, to live a decent standard of living, I doubt many would say they are. If we asked them if they should keep being paid what a "good" salary level was in 1985, so the CEO could get a bigger bonus - I doubt you'd have many takers. Just sayin'.

 

[Bowsnbucks]

As for the markets ...... they've been headed downhill for the last 2 1/2 months. The blips are buyers "on dips". Trend is down. Analysts don't know what to suggest to investors at this point. Investors ---- not traders. Our dry powder is sitting in places between 4.7% and 6.25%. Can't see diving in big-time at this point, other than some smaller odds & ends on dips that I would be investing in anyway.

 

[Foggy47]

Not saying how much they should make. Just thinking the CEO's shouldn't get all the gravy. Companies are "teams" of people, and many of those who apply their knowledge and skills aren't being compensated fairly. The CEO's don't find cures to diseases - the researchers do. The engineers discover new technologies - the CEO's don't typically.

If we ask all the working people of this country if they think they're being paid fairly, to live a decent standard of living, I doubt many would say they are. If we asked them if they should keep being paid what a "good" salary level was in 1985, so the CEO could get a bigger bonus - I doubt you'd have many takers. Just sayin'.

Yep....pretty much the way "Walter" saw it in the series Breaking Bad.

I think many of us feel the Quarterbacks are overpaid when it takes an entire team to win a football game. OTOH making good decisions with the football is what the fan's and team owners will pay for. Sometimes (often?) a quarterback is overpaid for his performance. I bet there are allot of guards whom feel underpaid.

It's America, and you can always start your own football league with equal pay and small bonuses based on performance.

 

[jsasker007]

BBAI is at a good price to buy right now in my opinion. They are the latest to suffer from accounting issues that need to be corrected before people are interested in the stock again. For me that means buy it while it's cheap. jmo

 

[Foggy47]

Not saying how much they should make. Just thinking the CEO's shouldn't get all the gravy. Companies are "teams" of people, and many of those who apply their knowledge and skills aren't being compensated fairly. The CEO's don't find cures to diseases - the researchers do. The engineers discover new technologies - the CEO's don't typically.

If we ask all the working people of this country if they think they're being paid fairly, to live a decent standard of living, I doubt many would say they are. If we asked them if they should keep being paid what a "good" salary level was in 1985, so the CEO could get a bigger bonus - I doubt you'd have many takers. Just sayin'.

For over 20 years, I worked as a sales rep for metal fabricators and then for an Aluminum company. We had five sales rep's and a sales manager. I think I sold more metal than the whole lot of the rest of them. I did not want a management job.....I liked and was good at what I did. We were all paid a similar amount.....but some was based on a negotiated bonus each year. I was unhappy on my pay rate based on my performance......but despite my protesting......they said I was at the top of the pay rate for that position. Chit. Was not "right" in my opinion. I didn't want to move and become a sales manager and write reports and travel with other sales reps, etc.....I liked what I did.

After a time, I developed a plan to do my own business and did that...figuring I could always get a similar job if my plan failed. They hired three people to replace what I was doing.....and lost much of the business I had developed (idiots).

I still liked that sales rep job over most anything I have ever done. The rewards were simply not right compared to my performance....IMO. Sometimes you gotta protest with your feet. Sometimes your right (like Kirk Cousins) and sometimes your wrong (like A Rogers). grin.

 

[Turkish]

I agree about the ones on the teat. But I know some friends and acquaintances who work full time, and some at 2 jobs, who can't pay for food, rent, and medical care. They have to choose at times. No luxuries for them. Are those people to be ignored??

Honestly, I think their friends should help them. I’m also not the least bit compelled by a lack of luxury.

 

[Buckly]

Yep....pretty much the way "Walter" saw it in the series Breaking Bad.

I think many of us feel the Quarterbacks are overpaid when it takes an entire team to win a football game. OTOH making good decisions with the football is what the fan's and team owners will pay for. Sometimes (often?) a quarterback is overpaid for his performance. I bet there are allot of guards whom feel underpaid.

It's America, and you can always start your own football league with equal pay and small bonuses based on performance.

To add to your point. How many people in this World can play starting quarterback in the NFL? How many people can play wide receiver in the NFL? A couple hundred maybe out of 8 billion people. That’s why the money is there and why everyone has a niche that they fit in. With no disrespect how many people can be engineers, teachers, janitors? The pay is what it is for how many people can do the job It’s all relative. If millions of people can do a certain job then obviously they make much less than a job that only a few can do.

 

[Mortenson]

Yep, I don't support the athletes with my own money, but I do believe in their right to earn millions. More power. Same with CEOs. Heck teachers get golden parachutes too.

 

[bwoods11]

I invest in JP MorganChase . I know the CEO (Jamie Dimon) makes an absurd amount of money … !

However, I know he’s the best in the business, and will command a top salary, bonuses, & stock options!

That’s one reason I invest is because of his leadership and experience!

 

[Howboutthemdawgs]

I think nvidia should get rid of Jensen Huang and give Paul from accounting a go. All the shareholders would be ecstatic to have Paul’s leadership at a fraction of Jensens compensation I’m certain

 

[jsasker007]

I think nvidia should get rid of Jensen Huang and give Paul from accounting a go. All the shareholders would be ecstatic to have Paul’s leadership at a fraction of Jensens compensation I’m certain

I've heard some good things about Paul.

 

[Foggy47]

I've heard some good things about Paul.

I've heard some good things about A-Rod too.....but the Vikings weren't bitting. (I am so glad they nixed him from playing with the Vikes....SKOL)

 

[jsasker007]

I've heard some good things about A-Rod too.....but the Vikings weren't bitting. (I am so glad they nixed him from playing with the Vikes....SKOL)

I was already telling myself that if the vikes sign Rodgers I'm not watching a single game this year. We already have plenty of drama.

 

[bwoods11]

Nvidia buy @ $106 not looking too bad right now .

 

[Turkish]

No doubt. I'd like to know, though, how engineers who actually have the knowledge to come up with those cutting-edge technologies, get shafted with a $10,000 to $80,000 bonus - while the CEO walks away with $20 - $50 - $100 million or more ..... for "his" genius??? I've read articles of pharmaceutical researchers getting a $50,000 bonus on top of their $150,000 to $200,000 salary for finding cures and treatments for various diseases & conditions that earned their company $$$billions. The CEO's and top executives got millions in bonuses & stock options ...... when the one(s) doing the actual "finding / inventing" got a pittance, relative to what the mahogany office-dwellers got. Such successes are team efforts, are they not?? So why does 99% of the team get cookie crumbs - if anything - and the 1% get all the gravy?? IMO - 70/30, or 65/35 would be fairer. It's still capitalism ......... just wouldn't be "hoggism" as much.

What great companies are you investing in that don’t pay their execs competitively? I’ll wait.

 

[Jerry-B-WI]

What great companies are you investing in that don’t pay their execs competitively? I’ll wait.

Are any of your investment decisions based on the execs compensation?

 

[Turkish]

Are any of your investment decisions based on the execs compensation?

Never given it a single thought.

I guess maybe implicitly I assume the leadership of companies to which I’m attracted is competitively compensated.