Sericea Lespedeza Control

What Iv red is burning only sets back. Herbicide work but next year not tall enough to see. Year after I see new plants. Only thing Iv found is yearly spot checking that is a PITA.
 
What Iv red is burning only sets back. Herbicide work but next year not tall enough to see. Year after I see new plants. Only thing Iv found is yearly spot checking that is a PITA.
Yeah bc I’ve heard the same. Burning can actually promote new growth by clearing debris and making it easier for seeds in the seed bank to germinate successfully
 
I think there maybe some confusion in my statement I was not saying to burn SL to kill it glysophate only burns off the top growth but doesn’t kill the roots. I suggest using a triclopyr product early growing season and Escort late season.
 
Not even sure where it came from, but there's a sprig here and there popping up on my farm every single year.

I've just been spot spraying with roundup and pulling up plants any time the ground is inundated with water.

It'll be a never ending battle; I've owned my farm since 2004 and went years without seeing any of it. Then I let a few areas go idle and BOOM, there it is.
 
Not even sure where it came from, but there's a sprig here and there popping up on my farm every single year.

I've just been spot spraying with roundup and pulling up plants any time the ground is inundated with water.

It'll be a never ending battle; I've owned my farm since 2004 and went years without seeing any of it. Then I let a few areas go idle and BOOM, there it is.
Be diligent! If you don't have much mark it with posts or something. Keep a gallon of triclopyr handy so you can hit it any time you see it. Check your marked areas often. Burn (fire) your patches in Aug/Sept if you can.
 
Back we had quail before 1990 - we looked for sericea patches to hunt😉
On one of the recent podcasts with Drs. Gulsby and Lashley, they were talking about several plants including SL. They were giving "fun facts" about different ones. They said quail would fill up on SL, but they couldn't digest it, so they could starve on it without realizing it. They also said it produces something that turned the soil bad to prevent other plants from growing.
 
Yeah bc I’ve heard the same. Burning can actually promote new growth by clearing debris and making it easier for seeds in the seed bank to germinate successfully
I have read that winter burns will promote the spread and late summer burns will set it back
 
On one of the recent podcasts with Drs. Gulsby and Lashley, they were talking about several plants including SL. They were giving "fun facts" about different ones. They said quail would fill up on SL, but they couldn't digest it, so they could starve on it without realizing it. They also said it produces something that turned the soil bad to prevent other plants from growing.

It sure seems to be Allelopathic on my place. Not sure if that spelling is correct. We used to hunt commercial timberlands - and the clearcuts and plantations seemed to have a lot of SL at the ends of the haul roads on the turn arounds - and it would be there for years. Those were always prime quail areas. If we had a short time to hunt - we just drove from one turn around to another and let the dogs out.
 
Not even sure where it came from, but there's a sprig here and there popping up on my farm every single year.

I've just been spot spraying with roundup and pulling up plants any time the ground is inundated with water.

It'll be a never ending battle; I've owned my farm since 2004 and went years without seeing any of it. Then I let a few areas go idle and BOOM, there it is.
Iv owned my MO farm for over 30 years. Never had Bush honeysuckle till about 6 years ago. Spray every spring thing that should do it. Next spring have even more. About same time frame with SL.
 
State of Mo recommends a cut stump treatment of roundup on bush honeysuckle maybe try that.
 
State of Mo recommends a cut stump treatment of roundup on bush honeysuckle maybe try that.
Cut stump treat mature and Remedy, diesel ring for stuff under 1".
 
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You guys might have covered this previously….
 
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You guys might have covered this previously….
I've used both of those herbicides on it Westwind. My experience (everywhere is different) is that it will kill the patch, then it comes right back the next year like nothing ever happened.
 
My big concern is my pollinator patch. I worked three years to get a good stand of pollinator plants and I dont want them to be collateral damage to getting rid of the SL
 
My big concern is my pollinator patch. I worked three years to get a good stand of pollinator plants and I dont want them to be collateral damage to getting rid of the SL
I have pollinator contract 15 years old. Just started seeing SL in it last year. Started spot spraying 41% and this year looking better. I only see when have no spray available. Thinking now a once a year spot spraying minimum forever.
 
I have pollinator contract 15 years old. Just started seeing SL in it last year. Started spot spraying 41% and this year looking better. I only see when have no spray available. Thinking now a once a year spot spraying minimum forever.
I have more than I can spot spray, now. I think I am going to mow and see if I can reduce the amount and then try spot spraying. Of course, mowing now is going to impact my fall pollinator plants.
 
I have more than I can spot spray, now. I think I am going to mow and see if I can reduce the amount and then try spot spraying. Of course, mowing now is going to impact my fall pollinator plants.
Same. Mine is small. 2 acres next to the house i maintain for quail. I lightly disced last year after a burndown and I regret that. I went from grass heavy to SL. I can control grasses a lot easier. So far I’ve been very disappointed in the lightly discing for natives strategy. Anywhere I do it I end up with rutted up nasty invasive ground.
 
I've used both of those herbicides on it Westwind. My experience (everywhere is different) is that it will kill the patch, then it comes right back the next year like nothing ever happened.
I wondered! I haven’t completely followed this thread but it seems like he may be spiking the ball before he gets to the end zone!
 
Same. Mine is small. 2 acres next to the house i maintain for quail. I lightly disced last year after a burndown and I regret that. I went from grass heavy to SL. I can control grasses a lot easier. So far I’ve been very disappointed in the lightly discing for natives strategy. Anywhere I do it I end up with rutted up nasty invasive ground.
Same here. I had pretty much pure stands of nwsg. Nothing used it - nothing. So I bush hogged it and lightly disked. Johnson grass. Last year I spray with blazer of roundup and killed it to the dirt. This year I have a fair bit of ragweed, but a lot of marsh elder and johnson grass. It is slightly better than all nwsg or nwsg and johnson grass. Aint never easy. I think it would be easier on me, and for sure a much bigger wildlife draw, if I just planted it in a summer mix and let it go.
 
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