Scion from older trees, no water whips.

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I grabbed some scion off of a roadside find. There were no water whips. Got a few branch tips, some had fruiting buds on them. Did not have luck grafting stuff like that last year.

 

[Turkey Creek]

Yea that is a bit tougher job. I would say our success rate goes from about 98% on apples to between 40-50%. Stone fruit is even worse and then on top of that some of the grafts will take but the scion just never really pushes any decent vegetative growth. to form a viable tree.

 

[Bowsnbucks]

Yea that is a bit tougher job. I would say our success rate goes from about 98% on apples to between 40-50%. Stone fruit is even worse and then on top of that some of the grafts will take but the scion just never really pushes any decent vegetative growth. to form a viable tree.

TC -

Are you saying grafting with branch tips is harder/less likely to succeed than grafting with water sprouts??

 

[Turkey Creek]

Not necessarily just saying that if your only option is grafting old, spurred up wood the success rate goes down considerably. We use new growth on branch tips and water sprouts for our normal grafting and can't say I have ever noticed a difference between those 2 sources.

 

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I did graft an older branch that had fruit spurs on it not by choice it was the best I could get the day I cut scion off that tree and one of them did take last year idk if it’s going to actually put out any good vegetative growth this year or not.

 

[Telemark]

I've had a lot of failures due to the same problem. Last year the Korean Giant scions I grafted bloomed and then did nothing. They stayed green until summer but were dead when I checked in November.

I took scions from a gnarly old Callery pear that has good fruit for deer. I'm not holding my breath, but I've seen Callery produce new growth from surprising places, so I'll try it anyway.

Your best bet might be to provoke new growth by giving the tradition a trim this winter if it won't bother whomever owns it.

 

[hunts_with_stick]

I’m still waiting a few weeks to get Scion. Still lows in single digits, or negatives. Finally going to hit 30 this week. When do you typically collect yours?

 

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I’m still waiting a few weeks to get Scion. Still lows in single digits, or negatives. Finally going to hit 30 this week. When do you typically collect yours?

Was going to ask others. Past few years were mild here in NY. I've prepped soil this time last year or two.

 

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Might be worth it to mini prune. Clean up a piece of the tree to grow scion for next year. Did that with 2 I am watching last week.

Also topworked a tree last year to make scion from so-so stock. Hoping weather gets better to look on how that went.