MRBB - You mean your N.E. Pa. mountain deer with all that nutritious mtn. laurel, leaves, twigs and moss don't get to over 200 lbs. ??? Most of them have - after all - 1 1/2 yrs. to put on all that weight. Ours do, over in N.C. Pa. :rolleyes: Just go to any bar, or listen to a group of " buddies " talking. :rolleyes::p
The only really big deer I've ever seen were from northern wilderness areas where they have way less pressure and get some years on them. A good hunting friend of mine got a weighed buck of 238 lbs. in Maine. I saw several others over 200 lbs. from northern wilds. Ag areas have it better for all the good crop nutrition. Nothing wrong with that.
HAHA, the bars around here and gun stores are FULL of folks that claimed to have killed 200+ lb deer every yr here too?
these are the same guys that have guilt in scales in there eye's and arms
they also seem to shoot 140" + bucks every yr too
even some 140" 6 pointers I am told by a few, that were at least 8 + yrs old too! LOL
That's actually another one of my pet peeve's
when folks CLAIM a deer is as old as dirt, yet its SMALL, in all aspects
yet they swear up and down its a OLD deer due to it had ALL GREY hair on it, be its face or??
I blame TV for a lot of this
as FAR too many TV hunters seem to want to ALWAYS justify shooting a smaller buck just to get a kill on camera? and use these words to, sound like there better than??
its a "MATURE" deer, "ITS OLD"< ITS "X" lbs
when anyone with any REAL honest experience,m can see right thru there bull
BUt since and sorry to say this, IMO< 75% of hunters don't have a clue, and then when THEY shoot something, they use them same words, due to that's what the TV guys did!, and there 2 yr old deer they claimed was MATURE, look alike
they assume they too shot a OLD mature buck, and of course its weight well over 200 lbs, as it too matched the TV shows BIG FAT Deer!
even if it wasn't LOL
But if you hang out in bars or gun shops, you'll hear all sorts of Monster bucks being killed all the time that are both FAT and MATURE LOL
I guess these people also, have special rulers they measure things with, just like there scales! HAHA!