Question on No-till

Terrific_tom

5 year old buck +
I have a question for you guys that spray, broadcast seed and then cultipack/roll in regards to brassica seed. How do you incorporate your fertilizer? Brassicas need a lot of nitrogen and with effectiveness of urea being lost if exposed for any amount of time what do you use for fertilizer?
 

scott44

5 year old buck +
What I did was seeded, rolled and sprayed. I went back the next day spread my urea luckily we were getting some rain that night. I'm not sure this is the correct way to do this but I just broadcast it over the downed rye mulch.
 

bueller

Moderator
I have a question for you guys that spray, broadcast seed and then cultipack/roll in regards to brassica seed. How do you incorporate your fertilizer? Brassicas need a lot of nitrogen and with effectiveness of urea being lost if exposed for any amount of time what do you use for fertilizer?
Always an issue for me since I don't live near my property to run out there right before a good rain. Two weeks ago when I planted my brassicas I spread urea before rolling. We then received around a 1/2" of rain combined over the following three days. Hopefully I didn't lose too much. I plan to topdress with more urea in a couple weeks, hopefully with a good rain approaching. Can Ammonium Nitrate be topdressed like urea?
 

wildfire

5 year old buck +
Sulphur coated urea
 

SD51555

5 year old buck +
Can the average guy still get ammonium nitrate though? My brother the budding farmer leads me to believe it's near impossible to get UAN without a visit from the boys in the black SUVs. I was able to get ammonium sulfate at my local fertilizer plant.
 

Terrific_tom

5 year old buck +
Did some more research and it seems like the higher your ph the more chance of volatilization. Also the more residue the more chance of volatilization. Need about 1/2 of rain if top dressing or broadcasting on top. Guess I will use the old way and disc the fertilizer in before planting. Here is a very interesting read on urea volatility.

http://www.extension.uidaho.edu/swidaho/nutrient management/pnwureamanagement.pdf
 

Terrific_tom

5 year old buck +
Always an issue for me since I don't live near my property to run out there right before a good rain. Two weeks ago when I planted my brassicas I spread urea before rolling. We then received around a 1/2" of rain combined over the following three days. Hopefully I didn't lose too much. I plan to topdress with more urea in a couple weeks, hopefully with a good rain approaching. Can Ammonium Nitrate be topdressed like urea?

I am in the same boat living 2 hours away.
 

bueller

Moderator
Ammonium Nitrate.
Just got an odd look from the guy at the coop when I asked about ammonium nitrate o_O. They didn't have any coated N in bags either so urea it is.
 

wiscwhip

5 year old buck +
Maybe he thought you were trying to make a bomb?
 

wiscwhip

5 year old buck +
True, but I know some manufacturers have already stop producing and selling it. Obumble still has plans to try to get it regulated by Homeland Security through Executive Order..
 

bueller

Moderator
Paid under $15 for 50lbs of 46-0-0
 

wildfire

5 year old buck +
They make a polymer coated urea, 44-0-0. It breaks down with moisture and temperature.
 
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