Native Plants & Wildflowers - Growing from seed and other methods of propagation (Upper Midwest Focus - WI)

Thanks for the explanation. We all have very different situations and conditions to deal with. I can appreciate the difficulties that you face trying to fight a smothering plant and return things towards historic levels. Cool stuff!
 
Great thread C.E. !! Even though we're in a different region, some of the plants you're growing actually grow well here - butterfly milkweed is one. I'll be watching this thread.

Side note ….... I just bought some bees wax from a gent who's the VP of the Pa. Beekeepers Assoc. He explained that many honey bee hives are lost not to colony collapse disorder (CCD), but to a mite that came from overseas. So he said keeping good habitat for native pollinators is hugely important so our food crops get pollinated. Bumble bees, mason bees, butterflies, various other bees and flies need all kinds of flowers & plants to attract them.

So what you're doing is greatly needed - bottom line. Great effort on your part !! :emoji_thumbsup:

varroa mites are the scourge of beekeepers in east texas........growing evidence linking them to CCD

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When you direct seed to you ever prep a small spot for a particular plant? What I'm referring to is I've tried several things to start natives... I've tried spreading seed in native pasture with the hopes that some of it would take, I've tried doing it after a burn, I've tried stomping seed into plug holes, and now I'm going to try hitting small spots (2ft diameter) with gly and eliminating competition for direct seeding. Have you tried the spot spray method for DS? I don't want to destroy the plant communities I already have with boom spraying, just want to amend what's already there.

The short answer is no - we don't ever prep for a specific plant.

The Long answer. So our land has been in our family for probably 100 years now. It's owned by a few different family members. The land that I specifically own was mature red oak forest with park like woods, with some conifers (jackpines) and planted white and red pines. In 1996 a tornado came through and pretty much leveled a vast majority of the oaks. Since then a lot of red oaks have continued to fill in and tons of jack pines. The nice thing here is this land never saw a blow, I believe much of it was probably prairie / Savannah type habitat. Pennsylvania sedge covers the ground, thick as the hair on a dogs back. It smothers young plants.

Our land is extremely sandy soil, and almost always a fire hazard. We can't safely do prescribed burns, it's just not safe. We use roundup. Typically early in the year before native grasses are emerged and native plants are emerged. We will spray large patches of land 1/2 to an acre around trees and things, if we see native plants we try hard to spray around them. Then we let it sit for 12-18 months, spot spray any green that emerges. The roundup does allow the native plants and grasses to be released from the Penn Sedge. Then we over seed (broadcast) on top of that. It just takes a really long time for that Penn Sedge to break down to get some soil exposed. It's a painful, slow process.

I have some similar types of ground near me and I wonder what it looked like 200, 500, and 1000 years ago. I might call it Jack Pine/ but oak savannah. I recently read a book where the writer claims Native Americans had different types of management at different times. Perhaps more fire used for periods and then less, larger Native American populations and then less. More ag and then less.

Arrival of the horse and white man diseases before white man entered the area. Shuffling of tribes from the east that had the gun first.

I feel there was no steady native state of the environment in many of our areas. Always flux and change.... probably between dry prairie and woods in our areas.


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Sounds great for small areas. On my land in Central WI, Portage county I restored a former corn field into a 12 acre prairie with 7 grasses and 20 forbs. This was 27 years ago and is one of my proudest accomplishments on my land. I did it all on my own with no help from any federal or state agency. I have done controlled burns on it every 4-5 years with the help of the UW- Stevens Point fire crew. This spring will be my 7th controlled burn on this prairie. All the forbs are attractors for birds, bees, butterflies and more. My friend has moved a portable trailer with 28 or more bee hives on my land for the past three years which helps pollinate everything.
Great to see that others are taking an interest in pollinator plantings.
 
I haven't had much time to get back to this thread, however my native gardens are doing well in the cool growing weather. Really need some heat for things to explode. Here's a few plants that I started from seed.

Round-headed bush clover
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Anise Hysop
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Large-Flowered Beardtongue
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Compass Plant
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Royal Catchfly
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Oval Leaf Milkweed
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Wild Lupine - very difficult to germinate - best way I have found is to basically put the seeds in a wet paper towel inside a ziplock bag, and leave the bag outside in the sun for weeks - checking it every few days. As seeds germinate, plant them.
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I love hunting down wildflowers.

A few weeks ago, I came across several of the ones you posted as well.

Large Flowered Beard Tongue
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I’m guessing Small Flowered Beardtongue....?
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Shooting Star
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And wild Yucca
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I also planted a 4’X60’ bed of wildflowers in the back yard at home. It has about 30 different wildflowers in it including bachelor buttons, red poppy, California poppy, Mexican hat, Indian blanket, fire wheels, plains coreopsis, lanceleaf coreopsis, evening primrose, Sulphur Cosmos, a few different flax species, and a few different coneflower species. It has REALLY brought the pollinators in!

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Consider BeeKeeping

Goes with habitat management like PB&J

bill
 
Here are a few established plants that are blooming.

Shooting Star
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Wild Blue Phlox
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Prairie Smoke
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Virginia Blue Bells
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Foam Flower
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Wild Geranium
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Consider BeeKeeping

Goes with habitat management like PB&J

bill

My HOA specifically prohibits beekeeping.... otherwise I’d have a hive.

I’m pulling the rancher off the family’s 40 acres next January. I plan to put a few hives out there to supplement the 2 feral hives we already have.


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Wild Lupine - very difficult to germinate - best way I have found is to basically put the seeds in a wet paper towel inside a ziplock bag, and leave the bag outside in the sun for weeks - checking it every few days. As seeds germinate, plant them.

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Good stuff. You have some type of Lupinus on your property? See if you can key it out. If you have the native Lupinus perennis that is great. Protect it since its very important.

Over many years alot of Lupinus polyphyllus seed has been included in CRP/wildflower mixes. Over time it has spread and naturalized. Most of what I find in the wild is the L. polyphyllus but I find 1-2 others too.

I have propagated some into my food plots and the deer eat them right to the dirt. I started them over the winter and moved into the plot in the spring. Then they reseed very well. For whatever reason they thrive in my 5a/4b with cool summers.
 
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I took a few pics while on my way out to over seed my warm season TNM plot with some PTT. I didn’t take any pictures of the plot because only one sunflower has bloomed. Anyway,

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Sorry for the lack of contributions on this thread from me around actually collecting and growing the seeds of various species. 2019 was a crazy busy year but I did add a huge native plant bed to my yard which I basically use as a seed source for our farm. Here is a 16 minute video/picture montage I put together from my 2019 growing season. I pretty much harvested the seed from every forb in the video, split and divided plants and moved them into my new garden or to the farm. I'll try and post some other information to this thread again as I have time.

Checkout the Youtube here-> Native Plant Garden 2019
 
Here is the project I started in 2019. Mainly it's just my seed production source for seed to plant at the farm.
Checkout the YouTube here-> New Garden
 
Here is the project I started in 2019. Mainly it's just my seed production source for seed to plant at the farm.
Checkout the YouTube here-> New Garden
Heck of a project!

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Heck of a project!

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You know relatively speaking it's a very small piece of dirt. However, I did spend a hell of a lot of time prepping, growing seedlings, some of which were transplanted, some which will go this year, etc. Even just cleaning seed, weeding, it's all work. Pretty much micro managed down to the square inch. But the little bit of land I have I am able to crank out a lot of seed which would otherwise cost me hundreds and eventually thousands of dollars. Not to mention support a few pollinators that need every bit of help they can get :)
 
Heck of a project!

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You know relatively speaking it's a very small piece of dirt. However, I did spend a hell of a lot of time prepping, growing seedlings, some of which were transplanted, some which will go this year, etc. Even just cleaning seed, weeding, it's all work. Pretty much micro managed down to the square inch. But the little bit of land I have I am able to crank out a lot of seed which would otherwise cost me hundreds and eventually thousands of dollars. Not to mention support a few pollinators that need every bit of help they can get :)
Small dirt can be large work. You've done a ton with that flowerbed and what you put in it!

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