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Had one of the ridges clear cut. They are picking up now. You can see regen from 5 years ago in the background. Gonna be some awesome habitat in the next few years. Wish the price was a little better.
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Cleaning a section up on the other side of the ridge. 15 year regen for edge habitat.
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Around 300 red Norway that snake along the swamp. More edge
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I love watching these boys work. These rigs sure move some tonnage.
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No before pics?

Are you going to plant anything or just let nature run it's course?
 
Watching a Ponsse work is pretty impressive. Hope your market for wood is not tied to any stuff going to a Verso paper mill. They declared chapter 11 today so gonna be some time before they sort some stuff out and loggers get paid for recent work and haul there again. Of course there still are Domtar and Espera places taking stuff. I run into a pulp truck going to the old Thilmany mill a couple times a week traveling to work.
 
I asked my forester why I don't get loggers with that kind of equipment every time I logged. He said most of the Possee stuff goes out west where the big timber is. He also said it comes with a large price tag and large notes to the bank. So I could have pretty equipment in my woods and get paid less or not so pretty and the cash in my pocket. I said bring the old dirty paid for Deere stuff and fill my billfold with the cash.
 
Yes the Ponsse stuff is pricey $500,000 on up but makes up for it in being highly efficient.....with the right jobs. Mostly larger cut jobs and not the little bit of logging small woodlot owners wanna do. One family member had a job where they had 40 acres of pancake flat plantation pine clear cut, worked well in that situation with over 1000 cord being cut. If the job had been much smaller, the guy would not have made a bid (best of $options at the time too) and driven almost two counties away or so he told us.

My salvage cut on my land OTOH was low grade stuff, mostly on a rocky hillside and only 230-250 cord. Got the guy with the "well used" equipment which had numerous breakdowns and made a two week job go six weeks. Still I was lucky to find even that so at least got it done.
 
I here you about finding anybody these days to do a logging job !
 
Watching a Ponsse work is pretty impressive. Hope your market for wood is not tied to any stuff going to a Verso paper mill. They declared chapter 11 today so gonna be some time before they sort some stuff out and loggers get paid for recent work and haul there again. Of course there still are Domtar and Espera places taking stuff. I run into a pulp truck going to the old Thilmany mill a couple times a week traveling to work.
Yes this is a concern. My logger was telling me verso owes him a lot of $. It's possible the dominos could start falling and I'd be holding the bag. Business is so ethical isn't it.
They have two ponsee processors out there. They better get moving and start picking up, more snow on the way. But if they miss logs, I'll have some easy firewood to sell, and that's worth more $. That isn't going to help them pay off those expensive rigs...
 
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Are you going to plant anything or just let nature run it's course?
No comment, don't want to offend anyone, but I don't have a habitat consultant:rolleyes:
 
Watching a Ponsse work is pretty impressive. Hope your market for wood is not tied to any stuff going to a Verso paper mill. They declared chapter 11 today so gonna be some time before they sort some stuff out and loggers get paid for recent work and haul there again. Of course there still are Domtar and Espera places taking stuff. I run into a pulp truck going to the old Thilmany mill a couple times a week traveling to work.
They just hauled 500 cord of my land. I'm supposed to get paid two weeks after its taken to the mill. I'm getting nervous I hope they didn't take it to Verso. I work with a guy, who's dad hauls to Verso he said they are now paying on delivery,but they still owe the loggers for the wood that was delivered weeks ago.
 
They just hauled 500 cord of my land. I'm supposed to get paid two weeks after its taken to the mill. I'm getting nervous I hope they didn't take it to Verso. I work with a guy, who's dad hauls to Verso he said they are now paying on delivery,but they still owe the loggers for the wood that was delivered weeks ago.
You better get on the phone and find out if your getting payed or lock the gate
 
They just hauled 500 cord of my land. I'm supposed to get paid two weeks after its taken to the mill. I'm getting nervous I hope they didn't take it to Verso. I work with a guy, who's dad hauls to Verso he said they are now paying on delivery,but they still owe the loggers for the wood that was delivered weeks ago.

The way Chapter 11 works is that they are required by law to pay any suppliers deliverying anytime AFTER they file. Prior to is well more good faith on how they want to treat their suppliers. Verso is saying they will make good, still they gotta get some cash infusion to make that happen. Hope things work out well for you or they got all your wood yesterday!

FYI, Verso has mills in Stevens Point, Wis Rapids, Duluth, Quinnisec, and Escanaba around here. If those seem close to your land like within 40-50 miles you might be in the supply chain. Some of those places are doing ok, but the company as a whole and other locations not so much. Having a couple of billion in debt didn't do them any favors....
 
It has nothing to do with a habitat consultant. But everything always seems to point back to Dipper being a ****.


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Don't start that crap again.

Dipper has been a gentleman since the shake up of a few months ago.

Please be nice.

(Not sure Reagan if your post was a joke or not, this post is for EVERYONE'S benefit)

-John
 
glad u guys like the project
 
glad u guys like the project
I don't think anybody knows what the project is other than a clear cut. Planting conifers, relying on natural regen, planting grasses, etc...???

Unless you can't share your secret self written habitat plan ;):D
 
You better get on the phone and find out if your getting payed or lock the gate
I was up last week and all the wood was hauled out except for about a little over a truck load for some reason. They had just started hauling out 12/28, I'm not sure where the wood was going but I have a bad feeling it went to Verso because it was mostly maple hardwood pulp that is used for colored paper. I guess that's what the Verso mills specialize in. I will give my forester a call soon.
 
Yes this is a concern. My logger was telling me verso owes him a lot of $. It's possible the dominos could start falling and I'd be holding the bag. Business is so ethical isn't it.
They have two ponsee processors out there. They better get moving and start picking up, more snow on the way. But if they miss logs, I'll have some easy firewood to sell, and that's worth more $. That isn't going to help them pay off those expensive rigs...
My forester emailed me today. He said the Verso bankruptcy did effect my logger. My forester said that it will not be a problem getting paid, it will just be a little delayed. I'm supposed to have a check by next week,just not the full amount yet. I think you might have it better than me, if its true that they are cutting checks right away for the wood coming in.
 
Nothing sexy here, just selling timber and make wildlife habitat. There was literally a herd of I don't know how many deer....50, in here.
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Lots of moving parts to this timber sale, and a ton of cooperation with neighbor's. The two processors have been going 6 days a week since Christmas=some good days ahead!
 
Old bucks gravitate to the thickest, nastiest habitat. The larger the area, the more big bucks there will be. Big bucks don't dessert prime habitat, no matter how hard or sloppy it is hunted. There are many collared studies on that.
No need to draw crazy lines on ocd maps. Qdma had an article back in the day, and it was titled cover is key, it's really that simple!
 
Old bucks gravitate to the thickest, nastiest habitat. The larger the area, the more big bucks there will be. Big bucks don't dessert prime habitat, no matter how hard or sloppy it is hunted. There are many collared studies on that.
No need to draw crazy lines on ocd maps. Qdma had an article back in the day, and it was titled cover is key, it's really that simple!

Stem density ... the higher the better.
 
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