If you could change one regulation in your state

[Howboutthemdawgs]

Yeah it takes a lot of skil and practice to shoot long range but at 500 or more yards is it really hunting anymore? Shot load of skill in shooting yes but what hunting skills?

Absolutely not. It’s shooting. Zero concern for scent or concealment or movement, etc. You know, all the things hunters actually have to concern themselves with.

 

[Howboutthemdawgs]

I may have posted this before . Minnesota

Move the gun season back to November 18 at earliest …. (1) buck maximum, no exceptions. Minnesota is a legit big buck state again !

It would also improve the buck to for ratio!

I agree. Minnesota could be amazing at least from half the state south. Just as good as Iowa and western Wisconsin

 

[Bill]

500 yards in the right hands is as much a chip shot as 200 to some. When I hunted out west I hand measured powder for every round I hand loaded. Bullets seated exactly the same on the press so they were seated tight in the chamber when you closed the bolt with no head space. Spent a lot of time at the range shooting through a chronograph with a notebook computer running ballistics. I doubt a deer 100 yards away has any more idea it's being hunted than one at 500.

 

[bwoods11]

I agree. Minnesota could be amazing at least from half the state south. Just as good as Iowa and western Wisconsin

These are just friends, family and guys I know within hour of my house……

 

[Howboutthemdawgs]

lol. I rest my case your honor

 

[Wind Gypsy]

I was talking with a guy the other day who was bragging that he hit a steel target "...at about a thousand yards..." with his 22-250. I asked him what distance his gun was zeroed at and he said 100 yards. I've longed my entire life to be that good........

Every top level precision rifle competitor out there zeros at 100 yards and many of the competitions go well past 1000 yards. You dial for elevation corrections.

But yes, most hunters suck at shooting, regardless of weapon. I volunteer at public rifle sight in days at my gun club most years and it’s a pretty sad ordeal seeing how poor most hunters and their gear are at hitting a target.

 

[Native Hunter]

Every top level precision rifle competitor out there zeros at 100 yards and many of the competitions go well past 1000 yards. You dial for elevation corrections.

But yes, most hunters suck at shooting, regardless of weapon. I volunteer at public rifle sight in days at my gun club most years and it’s a pretty sad ordeal seeing how poor most hunters and their gear are at hitting a target.

Yes, I realize that, but my point is that he didn't have the equipment to shoot at long distances and had no training in it. He wasn’t even sure the distance was 1,000 yards. Note that he said “at about a 1,000 yards.” As you and I both know, at that distance just misjudging the distance a tad will result in a miss.

I didn't include this part of the story, but I had just watched him shoot at a target 250 yards away and miss a spot by 8 inches.

I'm all for long range shooting for someone who is capable, prepared and equipped to do it. My problem is people who take shots they aren't capable of making and end up wounding game. That also goes for a bow or crossbow.

 

[roymunson]

Lemme use my necked cartridges in Ohio. You can even put a max caliber on it, I don't care.

I wanna kill deer w/ my 243 and 25 caliber. Instead, I have a low energy 350 legend, a mid range 400 legend, or get my shoulder replaced shooting the 444.

A 223 or 243 in the hands of one of my youth hunters would be cool. Not many spots to shoot over 150 yards in the Buckeye anyways. But I have a couple spots.

 

[matinc]

Gang, I am truly wondering if it's time for me to make a new post and vent on some issues that I truly believe are dragging deer hunting down. It's not gonna be a pleasant post and I'm sure I'll piss off many but changes need to happen. Please let me know if your ready ty ps this is the third year I haven't bothered to hunt and frankly didn't miss it

 

[SwampCat]

Gang, I am truly wondering if it's time for me to make a new post and vent on some issues that I truly believe are dragging deer hunting down. It's not gonna be a pleasant post and I'm sure I'll piss off many but changes need to happen. Please let me know if your ready ty ps this is the third year I haven't bothered to hunt and frankly didn't miss it

Have at it

 

[Mortenson]

Believe it or not, I think Illinois has actually dropped a late season doe hunt in extremely few counties once or twice. The skeptic in me says it's for ulterior motives. I would love to see cell cam bans and crossbows eliminated unless for say 50 to 55 on up, or crippled folk. If the cell cam guys get sniffly I could compromise and say ban all cams except within 50 yards of land boundaries, for security measures. Work with me.

 

[PatinPA]

Do you really think a majority would quit baiting if it became illegal. MO does not allow baiting, yet every walmart has two head high pallets of corn. Are wives grinding that to make cornmeal for cornbread?

In PA every Walmart, Tractor Supply, sporting goods store sells corned marked as deer corn and various BOB baits and we're a no baiting state (minus the philly suburbs) plus I'm in a CWD area so we're not allowed to even feed deer before/after season.

 

[Derek Reese 29]

In PA every Walmart, Tractor Supply, sporting goods store sells corned marked as deer corn and various BOB baits and we're a no baiting state (minus the philly suburbs) plus I'm in a CWD area so we're not allowed to even feed deer before/after season.

And magically they’re all “sold out” right before our rifle season starts….

 

[Catscratch]

I don't think they even bag corn in white bags anymore. Was in a CO-OP recently and they had pallets stacked high with camouflaged bags of corn. Said that's all they ship now. All the other feeds and whatnot are still regular bags. Big business!

 

[Howboutthemdawgs]

And they start littering the sides of the road with empty bags late October…hate to stereotype but it’s an ironic correlation

 

[hillrunner]

I don't think they even bag corn in white bags anymore. Was in a CO-OP recently and they had pallets stacked high with camouflaged bags of corn. Said that's all they ship now. All the other feeds and whatnot are still regular bags. Big business!

Camouflage bags? I promise you they are laughing about the "citydiots" all the way to the bank.

 

[SwampCat]

I don't think they even bag corn in white bags anymore. Was in a CO-OP recently and they had pallets stacked high with camouflaged bags of corn. Said that's all they ship now. All the other feeds and whatnot are still regular bags. Big business!

Dont forget - a lot of those bags have a target printed on the back - come in pretty handy. The camo bags here are paper - so when they blow out of the truck, they will eventually decompose - but if it rains on them in the truck - the corn gets wet. A lot are using plastic bags - keeps the corn dry - but plastic lasts forever. Mowing crew comes by in spring and mows ditches and chops up those plastic bags - spreading it everywhere

 

[Mtyhunter]

I've put out plenty of corn in oklahoma over the years, but as the hogs moved in, the only way to keep them out was to not put out corn.
It works. I still get pics around my main stands because they're good spots, corn on the ground or not. At this point, it wouldn't bother me if baiting was outlawed. Might entice me to put in a small food plot, but isn't that baiting, too?
It amazes me that no-bait states have pallets of corn for sale! That's hilariously just weird.

I got on a decent lease in central oklahoma. lots of acres, lots of prairie. Ideal for long-range hunting, as far as you want to shoot.
Bought the 300 win mag, got a decent scope good to about 500yds. Was excited to learn a new method. Here's what I learned about that, and consider that I'm a life-long bowhunter.
a-I'm not as good a shot as I thought. I can hit out to 500 yds only decently, windage is a big deal, and if the winds blowing 20 out there, it's a calm day. Kinda like a long-bow, 5 decent shots, and one flyer. I pride myself in being a one-shot guy, and I don't feel confident in taking that 500 yd shot. I think I could practice alot, and be a lot better, however....
b-this ammo is expensive. and I have to wait for the barrel to cool down a bit after a 3 shot cycle. Better block off an afternoon shooting this weapon, cause it will take that long
c-i find it very boring to sit like this, looking out at a half mile in all directions
d-I shot an 8pt at 300 yds, just to get it out of my system, and I got it with one shot. but, I remember not really feeling a sense of accomplishment when I walked up on it, and no adrenaline rush
Not downing anyone who loves long-range hunting, but it just doesn't seem to turn me on like I thought it would.

 

[SwampCat]

I've put out plenty of corn in oklahoma over the years, but as the hogs moved in, the only way to keep them out was to not put out corn.
It works. I still get pics around my main stands because they're good spots, corn on the ground or not. At this point, it wouldn't bother me if baiting was outlawed. Might entice me to put in a small food plot, but isn't that baiting, too?
It amazes me that no-bait states have pallets of corn for sale! That's hilariously just weird.

I got on a decent lease in central oklahoma. lots of acres, lots of prairie. Ideal for long-range hunting, as far as you want to shoot.
Bought the 300 win mag, got a decent scope good to about 500yds. Was excited to learn a new method. Here's what I learned about that, and consider that I'm a life-long bowhunter.
a-I'm not as good a shot as I thought. I can hit out to 500 yds only decently, windage is a big deal, and if the winds blowing 20 out there, it's a calm day. Kinda like a long-bow, 5 decent shots, and one flyer. I pride myself in being a one-shot guy, and I don't feel confident in taking that 500 yd shot. I think I could practice alot, and be a lot better, however....
b-this ammo is expensive. and I have to wait for the barrel to cool down a bit after a 3 shot cycle. Better block off an afternoon shooting this weapon, cause it will take that long
c-i find it very boring to sit like this, looking out at a half mile in all directions
d-I shot an 8pt at 300 yds, just to get it out of my system, and I got it with one shot. but, I remember not really feeling a sense of accomplishment when I walked up on it, and no adrenaline rush
Not downing anyone who loves long-range hunting, but it just doesn't seem to turn me on like I thought it would.

I did not pick up a centerfire rifle to deer hunt for twenty years. Bow hunt only until my shoulder couldnt bear it anymore about six or seven years ago. At that time, I started crossbow hunting and centerfire rifle hunting. I still feel the same excitement with a crossbow that I felt with a compound bow. I believe that is because of the closeness of deer and usually having to wait for the perfect shot - all with the deer up close and personal. I primarily hunt from the ground with the crossbow

With a rifle, it is definitely different. I have only killed one deer with a centerfire rifle since I went back to using one. For me, the excitement at the shot with a centerfire rifle is not the same as the excitement at the release of an arrow - or a bolt - for me. BUT, I find most hunts with a centerfire rifle overall, more exciting, because I generally hunt in places where I can see some distance - several places three or four hundred yards. I see a lot more deer, I see a lot more chasing, I see a lot of fighting, I see breeding, I see coyotes, bobcats, turkeys - I just see more of everything in general. If I am not going to shoot something - which is 98% of the time with either weapon - I would just as soon hunt where I can see more

 

[Walleyeguy13]

Yeah it takes a lot of skil and practice to shoot long range but at 500 or more yards is it really hunting anymore? Shot load of skill in shooting yes but what hunting skills?

I'm not sure I could see 100 yards in most of the stuff we hunt...