How evil to be....?

[Tree Spud]

May be true, but if you're amicable first, and it goes to pot, what's to keep you from burning the bridge and being a jerk the rest of your life? It's far easier to go that way than it is to be a jerk then try to ratchet things back.

There are guys in my community who play the game like you described, and no one wants anything to do with them. They may keep people off their property, but they are viewed as A-Holes and the only thing they have in their lives is that property, and no people to enjoy it with.

Hunting, IMO is not about being an alpha male. It's about enjoying the outdoors and passing it on to the next generation. I have no desire to fight and alienate myself over something as silly as a big buck or a deer, because the time will come when I need a hand and I know I'll be able to get it from those I've not "prepared war" against.

I tried the lets be friends & amicable route on my first couple of properties and all I did was get taken advantage of. . .

Allowed the older neighbor guy to rabbit hunt on my place in the winter with his beagle. The next fall he had allowed his kids through my gate so they could duck
hunt on my ponds and squirrel hunt my woods while I wasn't there.
Neighbor kids sneaking in one night with their trucks and having a mud truck race destroying 2 acres of food plots.
Finding cigarette butts & scent bottles at the base of my ladder stands. One time found an aluminum arrow that had dropped out of their quiver. It was the neighbor
on the back side of my property. Same guy that stopped by and always wanted to get to know me ... learned he just wanted to know when I was not up.
Finding gut piles on my property.
Have glassed neighbors shooting a deer on my property and watched them recover it, then denying it when confronted.
Fence line hunters shooting into our property with bullets whizzing by our stands.
Finding their hang on stands on my property backside.

Where I am at now, I have strong relationships with all of my neighbors. They are all locals. We stop by each others place and talk, occasionally over too many beers. I let their young kids hunt the doe season on my place. If one of us shoots a deer that jumps one of our fence lines, we text each other right away. During the recent tornado we had here, they stopped by my place and checked it out to make sure there was no damage. I have helped pulled them out when their tractors got stuck and they have returned the favor. We share game cam pics of the "big" ones we hope to score on.

We are friends now because we have established trust & respect. To those that think I am a jerk, they have probably earn that response from me. There is a difference between being liked vs respected ... you learn that over time.

 

[Red Picqua]

buy some plastic fencing and place it on your property line. end of story. make it 8feet high and stretch it out 200 feet each way. It's 6 acres not a mile. 200 bucks and his days of sitting on the line are over.

dude did that by me. exactly what I did.. he asked why did you do that? I said.. I was creating a corridor for deer. he said but it is preventing me from seeing on your land and the deer over there. I swear... I just shook my head and said.. maybe move your blind to a better area. 3 weeks.. blind was moved.

 

[Booner21]

Anyone putting a blind or stand on the property line facing your property has every intent of shooting onto your property and should be treated as a low life trespassing thief.

Over half of my stands are within 15 yards of my property line facing the neighbors property and have been since 2011. I have yet to draw on a deer on his side. For me it is all about access. I place the stands looking out so I can hide between the tree and deer. The deer come from me onto him most of the time. I think a simple conversation may be the best place to start before assumptions are made.

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[roymunson]

Over half of my stands are within 15 yards of my property line facing the neighbors property and have been since 2011. I have yet to draw on a deer on his side. For me it is all about access. I place the stands looking out so I can hide between the tree and deer. The deer come from me onto him most of the time. I think a simple conversation may be the best place to start before assumptions are made.

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If I've learned anything from this thread, it's "don't give anyone the benefit of the doubt, come in guns blazing, and only he man macho men go hunting to be alpha males"

There's no room for nice guys in the tradition of hunting.

*note the sarcasm and tongue placed firmly in cheek

 

[TreeDaddy]

not true ,Roy

Both of my colt45's remain holstered when discussing poaching with neighbors

bill

 

[roymunson]

not true ,Roy

Both of my colt45's remain holstered when discussing poaching with neighbors

bill

mostly heavy sarcasm and having fun. I try not to worry about other folks and hunt for my own reason, but couldn't resist a good natured cheap shot. It's raining here and I have to attend an elementary soccer game here in about an hour. Forgive me for letting out some of my angst :D

 

[Mortenson]

The problem with that is how many of those deer are dying on OPL (other people's land)? Obviously the lay of the land will dictate where a wounded deer wants to run, but for sake of ease, just assume a fence sitter's deer has a 50-50 chance of leaving your property. I realize there are unique situations where I can understand it's not as big of a deal, especially if the neighbors are totally cool with it. I think a lot of people around sites like this, who have a large commitment in property, have come to learn the importance of low pressure, human intrusion, sanctuaries, etc, and I personally get chapped when fence sitters need to constantly come into my best turf to blood trail or recover a deer. I don't really think it has anything to do with being an alpha male. I agree however, start with communication.

 

[Tree Spud]

If I've learned anything from this thread, it's "don't give anyone the benefit of the doubt, come in guns blazing, and only he man macho men go hunting to be alpha males"

There's no room for nice guys in the tradition of hunting.

*note the sarcasm and tongue placed firmly in cheek

If I've learned anything from this thread, it's "don't give anyone the benefit of the doubt, come in guns blazing, and only he man macho men go hunting to be alpha males"

There's no room for nice guys in the tradition of hunting.

*note the sarcasm and tongue placed firmly in cheek

Thanks for your guidance ... lets enjoy your approach below ... before you troll, you should read what was written and learn to comment on what was actually written before word barfing irrelevant comments ...

 

[roymunson]

Thanks for your guidance ... lets enjoy your approach below ... before you troll, you should read what was written and learn to comment on what was actually written before word barfing irrelevant comments ...

My bad... was simply making a light hearted joke and having fun... I'll try to keep things far more professional when it comes to hunting and my past times. 0% fun from me unless it's alpha male fun from here on out.

Have fun with your vinegar fly catching goals, I'll at least try honey first. hope you're never in a situation where you need a hand from a neighbor (geographically or otherwise)

But I digress. I probably won't change your mind, and you probably won't change mine. In the end, we don't have to agree on here to communicate on here.