grafted persimmions

buckdeer1

5 year old buck +
Where seems to be the best place to get them?It finally looks like i have one that will produce and it's not one of the grafted ones.They have been in the ground for 3-4 years.The one that is produceing was bird planted and is smaller than the ones I planted but I would like to add a few more.
 
I have native persimmons growing wild on my farm. I typically wait until they are about 1" in diameter. Here they generally aren't producing flowers or fruit until much larger. I don't wait to sex them. When they hit an inch or so in diameter, I bark graft them with female scions. I'm using both named varieties, scions from some of my best producing native trees, and scions from native trees from others that I've traded with. My objective is to get persimmons dropping across a wide time window.

I only work with American persimmons because the are astringent which protects them from climbing critters until they are ripe, and they fall from the trees where deer get a fair crack at them.

In my area, native persimmons typically take 10 years to produce without grafting. If you have a small seed planted tree that is producing, that is unusual and may be a great tree to use for scions as they become available.

Thanks,

Jack
 
I have some that were supposed to be grafted and they are 10 inches around and 20 ft tall and still no fruit.Kind of like the trophy pears I got from Morse nursery years ago,they get fire bight really bad,in fact I have cut them down once.How long should I wait on what was supposed to be grafted?
 
I have some that were supposed to be grafted and they are 10 inches around and 20 ft tall and still no fruit.Kind of like the trophy pears I got from Morse nursery years ago,they get fire bight really bad,in fact I have cut them down once.How long should I wait on what was supposed to be grafted?
There is no way grafted persimmons that large shouldn't be producing gallons of fruit. Generally, they will start fruiting within a couple of years.

1. What variety are they supposed to be?
2. Do they flower?
3. If they do flower, are you seeing male or female flowers?
4. How much sunlight do they get? Persimmons are shade tolerant but only to a point.

PS - Nurseries sometimes make a mistake and think a male volunteer sprout at the grafting point is one of their female scions. I bought 6 one time, and someone had made that mistake on one of mine. Five were indeed female, but one was a male.
 
According to what was on here in the spring they were males,I did find a couple females tonight that had fruit.Can I take sprouts from these couple trees and graft on my bigger trees or do I need to get my grafts from more different trees?
 
If the females you are talking about suit you, I see no reason why you couldn’t take female wood from them. If not, get in the scion swap thread next spring.
 
So I still have those trees that are 15ft tall at least and no fruit then I have a tree that is 5 ft tall and loaded.Guess I need to figure out how to graft and
 
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