Frost seeding clover

[Mattyq2402]

I have my plots from this past fall planted in a rye, brassica mix. I've never frost seeded before, can I frost seed some ladino white into it or will the rye drowned it out at spring green up?

 

[Someday isle]

I’m frost seeding this weekend into my existing clover plots. The rye will even act a a nurse crop this spring. I’d say it’s worth it.

 

[Bassattackr]

Yep, no problem. Just clip the rye in the summer and you'll be left with a nice stand of clover.

 

[DiSc0Rd]

Piggybacking on this I'm thinking of putting in clover end of this month. I'll have 100lbs that will go on about 1/2 acre maybe 3/4 tops that we don't put buckwheat in but will prob throw rye on this fall. Is late March to early for cover?

 

[Derek Reese 29]

Piggybacking on this I'm thinking of putting in clover end of this month. I'll have 100lbs that will go on about 1/2 acre maybe 3/4 tops that we don't put buckwheat in but will prob throw rye on this fall. Is late March to early for cover?

100lbs seems pretty high even for 3/4 of an acre, depending on the variety/species of clover...check online for seeding rates then go a bit higher I usually do a factor of ~1.25-1.5 times the called for seeding rate)...like if the seeding rate is 8-12 lbs an acre I will do 12-15 ...also are you ovesrseeding an existing plot to fill in or establishing a new plot...if its new the rate should be closer to 1.5X....hope this helps..

 

[scott44]

Piggybacking on this I'm thinking of putting in clover end of this month. I'll have 100lbs that will go on about 1/2 acre maybe 3/4 tops that we don't put buckwheat in but will prob throw rye on this fall. Is late March to early for cover?

My snow is finally down here to a couple inches and the forcast for the next little bit is 40's -50's so it'll go fast. I am going to try and seed my orchard and thicken up a couple clover plots today or tomorrow.

 

[S.T.Fanatic]

100lbs seems pretty high even for 3/4 of an acre, depending on the variety/species of clover...check online for seeding rates then go a bit higher I usually do a factor of ~1.25-1.5 times the called for seeding rate)...like if the seeding rate is 8-12 lbs an acre I will do 12-15 ...also are you ovesrseeding an existing plot to fill in or establishing a new plot...if its new the rate should be closer to 1.5X....hope this helps..

I just assumed he typed an extra zero.

 

[DiSc0Rd]

I just assumed he typed an extra zero.

Nope, it was a gift from a friend so I didn't do any research on seeding rates but I will now. Seed and over seed is what the plan seems to be turning into, and I'll find a home for the rest near my main food plot.

 

[PatinPA]

My plot is in the woods. It has a lot of leaf litter on it. Do you think frost seeded clover would work in this situation or do you think I should scratch up leaves first? Thought about buying a leaf blower but they're pretty matted down from all the snow we had.

 

[Derek Reese 29]

Nope, it was a gift from a friend so I didn't do any research on seeding rates but I will now. Seed and over seed is what the plan seems to be turning into, and I'll find a home for the rest near my main food plot.

good call! you could plant quite a few acres with 100 lbs of clover. good luck!

 

[Worm]

i just finished frost seeding landino and medium red clover into my fall rye . I seeded around 20 lbs. per acre . Time will tell but from past experience , Ive had some pretty good stands of frost seeded clover into Rye . i usually cut my rye in June .

 

[pilotpip]

Frost seeding is easy and works well. Don't judge the results by the first year. Clover will come in really strong in years 2-4.

 

[Powder]

I have an area I want to turn into a clover plot. It's never had a foodplot in it but is an open area about 3/4 of an acre and was mowed once in the end of August. My thought was to frost seed it.

My question is this: do I need to kill everything first or does it have a reasonable chance of success by simply frost seeding and then mowing in the late spring/early summer? Would I need to add winter rye or is straight clover ok?

 

[Bassattackr]

For successful frost seeding, you need good seed to soil contact. IE - Bare patches of ground to work with. Frost seeding on grass (dead or not), will not amount to much. You can always lightly till or disc to open up the ground if the grass / ground cover is fairly thick. Then you can seed and go back and kill the CSG/WSG later with clethodim.

I would not bother with mixing with anything else. Nurse crops help with weed suppression in fall and late spring plantings but with frost seeding you're getting ahead of most weeds so not as big of a deal.

FYI - Perennial (most white clovers) and Biennial Clovers (Red, etc) do best with frost seeding.

Good luck!

 

[Hoytvectrix]

I have an area I want to turn into a clover plot. It's never had a foodplot in it but is an open area about 3/4 of an acre and was mowed once in the end of August. My thought was to frost seed it.

My question is this: do I need to kill everything first or does it have a reasonable chance of success by simply frost seeding and then mowing in the late spring/early summer? Would I need to add winter rye or is straight clover ok?

It depends if they are annuals or perennials that are already there. I had an area I frost seeded into clover and had 100% clover cover. It is still a pure clover plot two seasons later, so it is possible. If you have perennials you will few options for control of weeds.