Food plots SW Wisconsin for November

Praire,

That place looks awesome. LEave the edges brushy like they are. Maybe every year mow closer to the trees in a spot or two with the deck up high. Let those edges continue to be 4-6ft tall stuff.

Any soil tests done? You have spots where compaction is an issue? Since you mntioned brassicas, how late in the year do you hunt. Certain plants die around28 degree nights, other plants die during like 15 degree nights. All of us are from different areas. How cold does it get at night during your late season hunt. The soil test might tell you what would grow better in there. Or, make you want to plant certain plants that can help you with certain low nutrients. Besides the exception of a bag of winter rye, you can spend a better $25 bucks or so on your food plot over a soil test. When using equipment keep in mind roots easil ygo 15 feet past the trunk of most apple trees.

One thing I do is make entry/exit spots for deer. That first pic of the deer around the growing goldenrod. Where he came out from I would back in that brush hog 10 yards or so. You make comfortable little pockets like that, they use them. My big backyard i right behind some good cover. They use to pop out of anywhere. With 2 or 3 little seclusions pockets, now they consisently go in and out of these spots. Make bow hunt a bit easier. Also makes gun hunting a little more predictable where to look, especially when you head is not the the game that well after hours in a stand. The deer come a little earlier in my experience, and if they get spooked, come back quicker too. Sometimes in a minute or two vs like a half hour or so.

Entry for you on the location. .Scent is a factor of wind direction/speed and how long the scent is in the spot. Make a good clear path you can get to your stand quickly. Wide enough to use it in the dark easily. Do not make it too stragiht, every 70 yards or so, make a bend in the trail. sometimes you bump into deer walking back for lunch, or walking in for a evening hunt. Scooting in with a electric vehicle can be an option then too.

I have just about ran into deer on these paths a few tmes. Public hunting land vehile paths, footpaths from the backyard, etc. Even the snowmobile trail on my hunting clubs property. During daytime scoot down each section, but slow work around the corner of those bends.

Also, keep in mind where you park your car, make a nice little spot for that. Do you camp there, or just drive in to hunt? Got kids getting older? They may want a little spot to camp out there.

Going back to the orchard, I would be tempted to clear back one tree all around. MAke every tree around the food plot accessible to clear vines from. You'll have tons of great trees and not really upset that seclusion area. A thought might be if you have to retrieve a wounded deer in there. May want a trail or two for that, or a path cut deeper in. Doesn't have to go through one side all the way to the other.
 
Thanks for all of the advice bigboreblr!

Any soil tests done? You have spots where compaction is an issue? Since you mntioned brassicas, how late in the year do you hunt. Certain plants die around28 degree nights, other plants die during like 15 degree nights. All of us are from different areas. How cold does it get at night during your late season hunt.
I'm waiting on test results. I mostly hunt until the end of the gun hunt, late November. It will get below zero at night.

When using equipment keep in mind roots easil ygo 15 feet past the trunk of most apple trees.
How close are people planting to trees? I'll need to go 1-2" deep with the rototiller if I plant rye or wheat.

You make comfortable little pockets like that, they use them. My big backyard i right behind some good cover. They use to pop out of anywhere. With 2 or 3 little seclusions pockets, now they consisently go in and out of these spots. Make bow hunt a bit easier.
Good tip!
 
Ouch! Those are around $7-$10/lbs.

Welters has some brassica blends & clover mixes that would work ...
I called Welters yesterday and got a shipping quote. About $20-25 for 15 pounds of seed shipped from Iowa to Wisconsin. Very nice people.
 
Praire,

That place looks awesome. LEave the edges brushy like they are. Maybe every year mow closer to the trees in a spot or two with the deck up high. Let those edges continue to be 4-6ft tall stuff.

Any soil tests done? You have spots where compaction is an issue? Since you mntioned brassicas, how late in the year do you hunt. Certain plants die around28 degree nights, other plants die during like 15 degree nights. All of us are from different areas. How cold does it get at night during your late season hunt. The soil test might tell you what would grow better in there. Or, make you want to plant certain plants that can help you with certain low nutrients. Besides the exception of a bag of winter rye, you can spend a better $25 bucks or so on your food plot over a soil test. When using equipment keep in mind roots easil ygo 15 feet past the trunk of most apple trees.

One thing I do is make entry/exit spots for deer. That first pic of the deer around the growing goldenrod. Where he came out from I would back in that brush hog 10 yards or so. You make comfortable little pockets like that, they use them. My big backyard i right behind some good cover. They use to pop out of anywhere. With 2 or 3 little seclusions pockets, now they consisently go in and out of these spots. Make bow hunt a bit easier. Also makes gun hunting a little more predictable where to look, especially when you head is not the the game that well after hours in a stand. The deer come a little earlier in my experience, and if they get spooked, come back quicker too. Sometimes in a minute or two vs like a half hour or so.

Entry for you on the location. .Scent is a factor of wind direction/speed and how long the scent is in the spot. Make a good clear path you can get to your stand quickly. Wide enough to use it in the dark easily. Do not make it too stragiht, every 70 yards or so, make a bend in the trail. sometimes you bump into deer walking back for lunch, or walking in for a evening hunt. Scooting in with a electric vehicle can be an option then too.

I have just about ran into deer on these paths a few tmes. Public hunting land vehile paths, footpaths from the backyard, etc. Even the snowmobile trail on my hunting clubs property. During daytime scoot down each section, but slow work around the corner of those bends.

Also, keep in mind where you park your car, make a nice little spot for that. Do you camp there, or just drive in to hunt? Got kids getting older? They may want a little spot to camp out there.

Going back to the orchard, I would be tempted to clear back one tree all around. MAke every tree around the food plot accessible to clear vines from. You'll have tons of great trees and not really upset that seclusion area. A thought might be if you have to retrieve a wounded deer in there. May want a trail or two for that, or a path cut deeper in. Doesn't have to go through one side all the way to the other.
I really like your ideas @bigboreblr. I agree that routing deer doesn’t get talked about too much on here, but is a great strategy. If you know the ways they come and go, it makes hunting them much easier.
 
So I got my soil sample results back. A couple of the plots the pH levels were really low, 5.3 & 5.6. I'm going to have to add a couple ton of lime to improve the pH level. I would like to plant brassicas in a month and wheat/rye in September. Is it to late to spread lime to help with this years brassicas? Can freshly spread lime negatively affect plant growth?
 
So I got my soil sample results back. A couple of the plots the pH levels were really low, 5.3 & 5.6. I'm going to have to add a couple ton of lime to improve the pH level. I would like to plant brassicas in a month and wheat/rye in September. Is it to late to spread lime to help with this years brassicas? Can freshly spread lime negatively affect plant growth?
Better now than never. I dont think you'll see any negative impact on plant growth, i've got some big plants right against my lime pile in the yard.. Surface broadcasted without incorporation wont likely result in much for neutralizing effect this fall but i'm not too well versed on that.
 
I would just stick with cereal grains while you work on your PH. Since your new to plotting I dont recommend getting too fancy and I have never had cereal grains planted early september fail. Even if you dont get much rain the morning dew will germinate them and I have never heard of deer not eating them like you often hear about Brassica. Maybe a mix of Rye and Oats.
 
One of my plots soil sample came back with a soil ph of 6.4 so I'm going to try a brassica/clover mix in just that plot. The nutrient recommendation per acre for brassicas in that plot: 100 pounds of nitrogen, 55 pounds of phosphorus and 160 pounds of potassium. Do I spread all of those nutrients at the time of planting? I'm looking to plant Sunday before we get rain on Monday.
 
I would not put near that much nitrogen on at planting. You can get something like 4-18-40 which is a common soybean starter Fertilizer and incorporate that into the soil. 4-6 weeks later add 46-0-0 to dry brassicas within 24 hours of a rain event.
 
One of my plots soil sample came back with a soil ph of 6.4 so I'm going to try a brassica/clover mix in just that plot. The nutrient recommendation per acre for brassicas in that plot: 100 pounds of nitrogen, 55 pounds of phosphorus and 160 pounds of potassium. Do I spread all of those nutrients at the time of planting? I'm looking to plant Sunday before we get rain on Monday.
Could you post a copy of your soil test? Also, make sure to add the same amount or more of lime in pounds as you're adding in fertilizer to keep from losing ground on your pH.
 
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One of my plots soil sample came back with a soil ph of 6.4 so I'm going to try a brassica/clover mix in just that plot. The nutrient recommendation per acre for brassicas in that plot: 100 pounds of nitrogen, 55 pounds of phosphorus and 160 pounds of potassium. Do I spread all of those nutrients at the time of planting? I'm looking to plant Sunday before we get rain on Monday.

A good reason to plant a buckwheat and clover cover crop. Buckwheat will make the phosphorus in the soil more available to the following crop and clovers will take care of the nitrogen.


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If your 'buffer code' is the same in your other plot with the lower pH, I'd just do 1 ton of calcitic pell lime, pocket most of the second ton's cash, and put a little into some gypsum. You're low on sulfur. If it were me, because you're only going 1-2" deep tilling, I'd skip the P and K fertilizer, and just throw on 30 pounds of N 3 weeks after you plant.

Here's your lime chart recommendation. You've got enough magnesium, so I'd just pour the 1 ton calcitic lime and 400 lbs gypsum to the plot. Test it again same time next year and see what you got.

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If your 'buffer code' is the same in your other plot with the lower pH, I'd just do 1 ton of calcitic pell lime, pocket most of the second ton's cash, and put a little into some gypsum. You're low on sulfur. If it were me, because you're only going 1-2" deep tilling, I'd skip the P and K fertilizer, and just throw on 30 pounds of N 3 weeks after you plant.

Here's your lime chart recommendation. You've got enough magnesium, so I'd just pour the 1 ton calcitic lime and 400 lbs gypsum to the plot. Test it again same time next year and see what you got.

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Thanks for taking the time to post your recommendation! It is very helpful. Thanks for pointing out I have enough magnesium, I wouldn't have caught that and probably would have incorrectly used dolomite lime. I like your suggestion of applying N 3weeks after planting.
 
My recently planted plot is starting to green up. I was thinking of setting up an exclusion cage in the middle of the plot to monitor the use. I would also set a cell camera over the plot. How many guys use an exclusion cage and how else do you monitor how much of the plot is getting consumed?
 
My recently planted plot is starting to green up. I was thinking of setting up an exclusion cage in the middle of the plot to monitor the use. I would also set a cell camera over the plot. How many guys use an exclusion cage and how else do you monitor how much of the plot is getting consumed?

I wouldn't waste your time with an exclusion cage. Your cameras will tell the story.
 
That looks great!!!!
 
Brassica/clover plot continues to do well. I added an elevated ground blind this morning. I thought it might bother the deer but I've had five deer in the plot tonight with a small buck walking right past the blind.
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