Do you remember it being colder

[Bowsnbucks]

I agree with you there.

It also says don’t store up for tomorrow. The birds and flowers are clothed because of Him. That’s where I will Put my faith.

Don't store up for tomorrow?? Then how do you reconcile the conservative long-time mantra to "save for your own retirement, and don't depend on Social Security, Medicare, & Medicaid to save you" with "don't store up for tomorrow"?? That also requires a huge assumption ...... that people are making enough to do that pushed-for saving after they pay their life-necessity bills. It requires making enough to have disposable income left over to do that very saving. If we follow that dream-world advice to "save for ourselves", long-advised by conservatives everywhere, isn't that counter to your "don't store up for the future"??

What % of the population is making adequate income to be able to actually save enough for life's necessities (not luxuries) in retirement?? The costs of medical care, insurance, etc. are going up faster than people's income levels. How does the math work out for most folks?? Remember - greed is ever present in the record-level profits that corporations have been making while keeping pay levels low = how do most folks save for their retirement years. I see no Scripture passage that says ".... it is good to be greedy." Todays' Scripture passage at church warned, "Woe to you rich, for you've lived in comfort and luxury."

I get the religious aspect of that statement, "don't store up for tomorrow." But how does that cancel the need to be good stewards of God's creation? Where in Scripture does God tell us to "use the Earth with abandon, make lots of money from trashing what I've created for mankind."???
There are Scripture passages that speak to planting things and fertilizing them.

 

[omicron1792]

Don't store up for tomorrow?? Then how do you reconcile the conservative long-time push to "save for your own retirement, and don't depend on Social Security, Medicare, & Medicaid to save you"?? That requires a huge assumption ...... that people are making enough to do that pushed-for saving after they pay their life-necessity bills. It requires making enough to have disposable income left over to do that very saving. If we follow that dream-world advice to "save for ourselves", long-advised by conservatives everywhere, isn't that counter to your "don't store up for the future"??

What % of the population is making adequate income to be able to actually save enough for life's necessities (not luxuries) in retirement?? The costs of medical care, insurance, etc. are going up faster than people's income levels. How does the math work out for most folks??

I get the religious aspect of that statement, "don't store up for tomorrow." But how does that cancel the need to be good stewards of God's creation? Where in Scripture does God tell us to "use the Earth with abandon, make lots of money from trashing what I've created for mankind."???
There are Scripture passages that speak to planting things and fertilizing them.

You won’t find a bigger conservationist than me. I have spent more time and money than most on making this place better than when I found it.

I’m sorry you can’t see the money making scheme man made climate change has become. I refuse to line the pockets of people flying private jets telling us to use one square of toilet paper.

It’s ok we see things different. The differences between us as people is the good stuff.

 

[Bowsnbucks]

I'm with you on the private jets angle. If we're going to work together to be good stewards of God's creation, then IMO - we all ought to do our parts. I'm also with you on the conservationism. I've done plenty of planting things that I won't benefit from - but maybe future generations will.

I'm a centrist that leans left on a couple things - environment and the rights of working folks. Dear GOD - working folks have it soooo great, and have such a lavish, lush, dream-boat lifestyle ............. I hate to see multi-billionaires suffer by paying a bit more to the peons. The 1% say we're "lazy."

 

[Howboutthemdawgs]

If you want to be a multi billionaire they should apply for their job. I hate when people who pull bumpers off an assembly line, and are easily replaceable, think they should get more money because the ceo makes a couple million while being the one person chosen to lead a multi national corporation, has to be accessible day and night, makes decisions that affect and answer to their employees, the board and shareholders, and be the face and voice of an entire organization. To the victor goes the spoils.

 

[omicron1792]

If you want to be a multi billionaire they should apply for their job. I hate when people who pull bumpers off an assembly line, and are easily replaceable, think they should get more money because the ceo makes a couple million while being the one person chosen to lead a multi national corporation, has to be accessible day and night, makes decisions that affect and answer to their employees, the board and shareholders, and be the face and voice of an entire organization. To the victor goes the spoils.

I’m confused at where this fits into the convo?

 

[Howboutthemdawgs]

I’m confused at where this fits into the convo?

ol bow doesn’t like rich ceos in the post above. I’m a proud believer in capitalism so I like to shout it from rooftops when faced with socialism

 

[Wind Gypsy]

There's no way the carbon footprint left by the creation of the solar plants is less than the footprint of the single gas powered plant. Yeah, maybe lonnggg term, like 100 years, but we all know that solar equipment likely will likely only last 10 yrs or so.

I wish all the numbers for apples to apples comparison were readily available and it weren’t the fringes lying about each other so we could have educated evaluations of such things.

But playing devils advocate- what is the carbon footprint for exploration, extraction, and transportation of gas to the gas plant over its life cycle?

 

[Mortenson]

This article popped up on the home screen this morn. Would be funny if it wasn't so desperate.

MSN

"A groundbreaking study has identified a significant relationship between indoor temperatures and cognitive performance in older adults, shedding light on how climate change may pose an increased risk to cognitive health."

 

[Howboutthemdawgs]

This article popped up on the home screen this morn. Would be funny if it wasn't so desperate.

MSN

"A groundbreaking study has identified a significant relationship between indoor temperatures and cognitive performance in older adults, shedding light on how climate change may pose an increased risk to cognitive health."

The groundbreaking part is apparently when you get older you lose the ability to turn down the ac therefore making you dumber

 

[Mortenson]

The groundbreaking part is apparently when you get older you lose the ability to turn down the ac therefore making you dumber

Exactly. My parents are getting worse with the tv functions. The other day my dad was all pissed because the tv volume wasn't going down. He was holding his cell phone and not the tv remote. The good news is we can now blame that on global warming and not dementia. I like to rule things out.

 

[Bowsnbucks]

ol bow doesn’t like rich ceos in the post above. I’m a proud believer in capitalism so I like to shout it from rooftops when faced with socialism

Ol Bows is not a socialist. By your own description a couple posts above, it seems anyone who isn't a CEO is a worthless loser ...... so take the crumbs you're "bestowed" and disappear. That ought to thrill the 99.9% of the public. BTW - I've had to be available 24/7 too, and put in TONS of overtime in over 40 years. Buuut - I suppose by your CEO worship - I'm just a worthless slug??? (I'm not worth multiple billions). I'm trying to stifle my crying and tears ......... No anger or hatred here - all good!

The "CEO's get the spoils" kinda flies in the face of Biblical teaching, too. Who does Jesus hang with and help - the kings and emperors???? Seems He teaches to look after the outcast, widows, the sick, the poor, etc. Not "winner take all" to the detriment of others.

 

[omicron1792]

Ol Bows is not a socialist. By your own description a couple posts above, it seems anyone who isn't a CEO is a worthless loser ...... so take the crumbs you're "bestowed" and disappear. That ought to thrill the 99.9% of the public. BTW - I've had to be available 24/7 too, and put in TONS of overtime in over 40 years. Buuut - I suppose by your CEO worship - I'm just a worthless slug??? (I'm not worth multiple billions). I'm trying to stifle my crying and tears ......... No anger or hatred here - all good!

The "CEO's get the spoils" kinda flies in the face of Biblical teaching, too. Who does Jesus hang with and help - the kings and emperors???? Seems He teaches to look after the outcast, widows, the sick, the poor, etc. Not "winner take all" to the detriment of others.

He teaches personal responsibility.

 

[matinc]

Ol bow I have been working for 48 straight years. Even when people were making an additional $600 per week in covid unemployment and actually making more than me when I was working and paying their salary do I personally don't want to here an oh woe me argument. Dog I agree bout the Victor's go the spoils. However dog as a michigan man I have to say m go blue hail to the Victor's.

 

[Brian662]

A little chilly on the drive in today.

 

[4wanderingeyes]

I have -30

Who knew how much global warming would hurt your face, and hurt to breath.

 

[chucker66]

We had -28 The chickens are surviving though Its 20 above in their coop. And to answer the original thread question, Yes, it was -32 actual temp about 3 weeks ago.

 

[buckvelvet]

We aren't as cold as Minnesota around here in West Michigan (on the lake) but its negatives again with windchill (-8), I don't remember it being colder because at what point does it not FREAKING matter the temperature, just get me the sam hill out of here.

 

[SwampCat]

I am past ready to start bitchin about the summer heat

 

[H20fwler]

Balmy 5 this morning with -15 breeze....

 

[Ben.MN/WI]

If climate change reduces these cold assed days, I'm all for it.