omicron1792
5 year old buck +
That is correct.
Lots of thought that when not taxed anymore they probably cant stay NFA item longterm. Several lawsuits cued up to challenge that already.
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Deregulating Suppressors?
- Thread starter Catscratch
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Lots of thought that when not taxed anymore they probably cant stay NFA item longterm. Several lawsuits cued up to challenge that already.
Catscratch
5 year old buck +
If not a NFA item can they be banned? Like bumpstocks...
Feelslikefar.
5 year old buck +
Banned at the state level in many places.
It's threaded 5/8 - 24. It comes in both 16 and 20 inch. I'm leaning towards 20".
Wind Gypsy
5 year old buck +
It’s still an Nfa item. The only change is that the “tax stamp” now costs $0, so it’s not really a tax haha. Process is still the same minus $0 fee.
omicron1792
5 year old buck +
How far is your longest shot?
Telemark
5 year old buck +
Go for light weight. We hunt almost exclusively with suppressors in Europe. I have a big over-barrel Hausken that is excellent on my .308, but the American QD can I have on a 5.56 AR in Ohio weighs a ton, and is only reasonable for hunting.
I think the US market is about to change fundamentally. I think, and hope, that the QD mounts will become less popular, and prices will come down. In Norway, which is an outrageously expensive country, a suppressor for a .22 LR is about 90 USD. A locally produced .30 cal suppressor for a hunting rifle is under $350 after the national 25% sales tax. And Norway has less than half the population of Ohio.
If I could import foreign suppressors to the US, I'd have a dozen or more. I probably won't buy a suppressor right after the holidays. I'll give it all some time to shake out. But I'm buying cheap-ish guns that are suppressor-ready before they become unattainable. I'm eying a .22 Walther for $180, and a Taurus .22 for $280. I just bought a "Winchester" .22 Wildcat rifle for $130. All 3 come with a threaded barrel.
I think we are on the cusp of a new era in suppressors in America.
I think the US market is about to change fundamentally. I think, and hope, that the QD mounts will become less popular, and prices will come down. In Norway, which is an outrageously expensive country, a suppressor for a .22 LR is about 90 USD. A locally produced .30 cal suppressor for a hunting rifle is under $350 after the national 25% sales tax. And Norway has less than half the population of Ohio.
If I could import foreign suppressors to the US, I'd have a dozen or more. I probably won't buy a suppressor right after the holidays. I'll give it all some time to shake out. But I'm buying cheap-ish guns that are suppressor-ready before they become unattainable. I'm eying a .22 Walther for $180, and a Taurus .22 for $280. I just bought a "Winchester" .22 Wildcat rifle for $130. All 3 come with a threaded barrel.
I think we are on the cusp of a new era in suppressors in America.
RGrizzzz
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If you're interested in buying one and learning the process Silencershop, SilencerCentral and other websites have good explanations of the process. Personal purchases come back pretty quick now, while Trusts are slower. I'd expect a surge in January, but I did see some places were already refunding tax stamp costs for the last few months.
Wind Gypsy
5 year old buck +
A local store is the best place to buy one IF they have what you want, which isn’t always the case. I’ve bought a couple through Capitol armory online and had shipped to door (adds about 4 weeks), 1 from scheels in person, 1 from a mom and pop shop that shit the bed on my ATF paperwork twice (8 years ago), and 1 directly from manufacturer but had Capitol armory process atf stuff for me and shipped to house.
A can optimized for a gas gun is going to be a bit different from one optimized for a bolt gun. Most gas guns that aren’t designed for a can are gassy AF with a traditional suppressor if the gun isn’t tuned for the can. For a gas 308 I’d look at options like CAT dirty Dave or SAW Ekron 30 cal. Neither of which I’d get for a dedicated bolt gun.
Edit to add: that AB A10 recommended by @omicron1792 would be a good option if not looking to spend $1k
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300;yards max
omicron1792
5 year old buck +
Then go 16 inches. The handiness of the rifle will be awesome.
I would get a AB raptor 8 with 3 inch reflex. There is a new company called airlock making a suppressor called zero g that will have a 30 cal suppressor out soon. That would also be a good option.
Another great option is the AB A-10 warthog. Get the 7.62 version. Short, light, and great price less than 500$.
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bigboreblr
5 year old buck +
Any reason going 308? Wouldn't a heavier bullet be better for deer? 395gr sub-x going subsonic is 1000ft-lbs. Kick isnt bad at all either.
omicron1792
5 year old buck +
I don’t think he is looking to hunt subsonic.
Wind Gypsy
5 year old buck +
Wouldn’t expect terminal performance of a subsonic to compete with something moving twice as fast.
SD51555
5 year old buck +
Very much this. I had to learn a few things when I got my first one.
*It makes your gun much longer, and awkward.
*If you want truly quiet, you have to shoot subsonic
*Subsonic is not powerful, and the range is limited
*In semi-autos, not all subsonics will cycle. I've had to get into performance .22 ammo to get it to cycle in my ruger 10/22s.
*I was not impressed with the suppression on hot rounds. Frankly, I don't shoot hot rounds without hearing protection, so I can't tell you how effective they are. Others have told me it does help, but it is very much not pew pew quiet like in the movies.
SD51555
5 year old buck +
So I got a 30 cal can for general things, and then I also bought a smaller .22 can. The .22 is smaller and shorter, and I put it on a shorter gun to make it all stay in the overall size I wanted. Now, once you have all those things understood and it still meets your user requirements, plinking around the yard is a whole lot of fun, because all you hear is the action of the gun and the bullet hitting the target. You don't have to disrupt the whole neighborhood now to be able to do some marksman work.
omicron1792
5 year old buck +
So @SD51555 things have changed a bunch in the last year. You can get a really good suppressor that only adds 4-5” of length to your rifle. A 16” 308 with 5” of suppressor would be 21”, he would be shorter than 90% of the guns walking around in the woods.
With supers good suppressors make them hearing safe for a few rounds, and decreases recoil and concussive blast. I can’t imagine going back to shooting unsuppressed.
With supers good suppressors make them hearing safe for a few rounds, and decreases recoil and concussive blast. I can’t imagine going back to shooting unsuppressed.
Catscratch
5 year old buck +
Uncle has a Banish on a .308 single shot. Zero need to use hearing protection with normal hunting loads. About as loud as a .22 rifle. Extremely fun gun!
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5 year old buck +
I am looking forward to setting up what will likely be my last deer rifle, a Howa 6.5 Creedmore, with a can. Suppressors should be OTC items as in much of Europe, given their hearing and community benefits. Hoping that day will come soon, so prices will go down and companies will do ever more investment in sound suppression that supports accuracy.
