Art, this tree is in MN. has not dropped an apple yet. But the deer seem to be hitting the lower ones right now. I will be honest, since we don't have any cattle in the feed lot anymore, this is the first time i have seen this tree. No idea how it got this big so fast, as it was not there 5 years ago that I remember. So I know little about it. But it sure has a lot of fruit on it!