College football playoffs
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No matter what they do, someone will always complain. I am no expert, and am not deep into it but I do love to watch college football. Pros I can take it or leave it.
The teams that should have won did so and will advance, the other teams were given a chance to show what they had. For the top 4, they really need to pick the top 4 (this should really be the top 12), not the top of the conferences. When you play in a weak conference and are at the top, that doesn't mean you should be in the top 4 (Boise State). I also think it should be based on regular season play and that championship games should not eliminate or include teams that were not in the running (Clemson). All that said, I don't think a 3 loss SEC team should be in just because they are from Alabama, GA, etc.... TX would have beat AL just like they did Clemson.
The teams that should have won did so and will advance, the other teams were given a chance to show what they had. For the top 4, they really need to pick the top 4 (this should really be the top 12), not the top of the conferences. When you play in a weak conference and are at the top, that doesn't mean you should be in the top 4 (Boise State). I also think it should be based on regular season play and that championship games should not eliminate or include teams that were not in the running (Clemson). All that said, I don't think a 3 loss SEC team should be in just because they are from Alabama, GA, etc.... TX would have beat AL just like they did Clemson.
Most of my life I have complained best teams not in National Championship game. Now if they have an 8 team or 12 or 16 then best 4 teams in America should get in final tournament to determine national tournament champion, so in my opinion much better than in the past. Always someone gets left out, but now the best 4 should have their chance to win it all and that is all that matters to me. A decade ago.... Oregon would have been playing Georgia for national championship while everyone else would of competed for lesser bowl games. Much more legit now
gwm
5 year old buck +
My thoughts:
1.) Conference champions shouldn't receive the automatic bye and one of the top 4 seeds.
2.) Playoffs should be similar to the NFL where the top seed always plays the lowest seed. I understand this can create travel issues with fans.
3.) Strength of schedule should be accounted for when picking the top 12.
4.) Potential increase to 16 teams to eliminate the byes.
1.) Conference champions shouldn't receive the automatic bye and one of the top 4 seeds.
2.) Playoffs should be similar to the NFL where the top seed always plays the lowest seed. I understand this can create travel issues with fans.
3.) Strength of schedule should be accounted for when picking the top 12.
4.) Potential increase to 16 teams to eliminate the byes.
Wind Gypsy
5 year old buck +
Hindsight is always nice for us critics.
The main thing I think isn't really equitable is giving byes to the winners of weak conferences. Boise and ASU proved they can compete but they didn't deserve a bye. I was initially a critic of SMU getting a chance compared to say Bama or south carolina but then those two teams went and lost to less than great big 10 teams in their bowl games. I think Indiana deserved their spot. They lost to ND by less than Georgia and put an impressive season together.
Whats the B1G vs SEC now this bowl season, 4-1? What's going on in SEC land? NIL making other schools more competitive or just an anomaly season?
The main thing I think isn't really equitable is giving byes to the winners of weak conferences. Boise and ASU proved they can compete but they didn't deserve a bye. I was initially a critic of SMU getting a chance compared to say Bama or south carolina but then those two teams went and lost to less than great big 10 teams in their bowl games. I think Indiana deserved their spot. They lost to ND by less than Georgia and put an impressive season together.
Whats the B1G vs SEC now this bowl season, 4-1? What's going on in SEC land? NIL making other schools more competitive or just an anomaly season?
Wind Gypsy
5 year old buck +
Interesting thought. Makes me wonder is it that or is being a conference champ just not a great indicator of current chops to win it all? OSU and ND look like the best teams right now and neither played in a conference championship game.
I dont think playing a quarterback who had never thrown a touchdown in a college game helped GA, either.
Wind Gypsy
5 year old buck +
I think associating a developmental football league for the NFL with college institutions is laughable at this point. What on earth besides the name do any of these teams have to do with academics? The highest budget teams have the best teams. Shocker...
Well 224 players get drafted into the NFL each year. How many FBS football players are there around the country? A whole lot of em are getting an education out of the deal with zero chance to get in the NFL.
If revenue from sports can help bolster academics (not sure if this actually happens), then that would be great as well.
Bowsnbucks
5 year old buck +
^^^^ Listen to some of the college players speak - or try to construct a sentence that makes sense - without a batch of "likes" and "ums". That'll tell you how much academics plays into college football, regardless of budgets. Colleges and universities use the majority of players as a means to bring in $$$$. They don't push academics like they ought to. I believe it was ESPN that recently aired a report on a number of former college players that didn't make it in the NFL, and today they have no real marketable skills. Menial-pay jobs - if they have jobs - and no future. The formula should be simple ..... no good grades above a certain GPA - they don't play the sport. That's if academic performance is the reason to attend college.
As for playoffs in college football - no formula will make everyone happy. There'll always be complainers.
As for playoffs in college football - no formula will make everyone happy. There'll always be complainers.
Wind Gypsy
5 year old buck +
I've had a bunch of friends play football and other college sports that are quite intelligent and successful in post sports life. If anything, the connections that they make in some of these programs give them an upper hand for networking for future careers.
Do we think the folks with "no marketable skills" would have been better off without college football?
Turkey Creek
5 year old buck +
The NIL situation made it so that the teams that can generate the most money will have the best teams going forward. The transfer portal is a joke IMO as well. I hate Pro football and now college football is about the go in the same category.
The Fishman
5 year old buck +
For the people using bowl games to judge the strength of a conference, you need to realize that with opt outs and the transfer portal being open, bowl game results are useless indicators of conference strength.
Bowsnbucks
5 year old buck +
Notice I said "some" in my post. I didn't say all players. ESPN didn't make their report because they only found one or two players in that sad situation. They reported on a number of former players. 2.3 GPA isn't setting the world on fire for division 1. Listening to some - some - of the football players in interviews after games wouldn't make me want to hire them. Bad communication skills, wrong word choices ....... let's not pretend this is only a rare occurrence. Listening to after-game interviews in several sports points to obvious problems academically. Are you suggesting poor academic performance / subsequent hard life situations by athletes is rare?? There have been numerous reports over the years of cheating by athletes at numerous universities. This isn't new. Shame on them if they don't take advantage of the opportunity for a good education.
Bowsnbucks
5 year old buck +
Not a fan of money being the determining factor either. With NIL, it's at least more open than the boosters buying cars & handing out money behind closed doors. SMU was a poster-child for such things - but not the only one guilty.
Turkey Creek
5 year old buck +
I have no doubt it has went on in various forms probably forever. However, now once a college offers them a bigger check they are off into the portal. I have seen in the last couple of days how freshly signed recruits are already entering the portal.
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