Broadcasting cereal grains

[woodyjeremiah]

Same here. Just zero rain since I planted. Really no real rain since late July.

Even the hurricane missed us.

Yeah we got 4” from the hurricane down in LA and it’s the only reason I got anything growing. Timed it really well and the deer are hammering the weedy vetch plot I put clovers and brassicas in before mowing. Just need some rain to get the rye out there at some point.

The grain plots I put in exploded right after that rain but I’m just hoping they hold on before the next rain and hopefully some cooler weather, think it’s gonna be almost 90 down there today.


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[SD51555]

SD I am amazed to see how much growth you have in those pictures. Your OM must be really high.

The biomass wasn't huge there. You can only get so much out of ladino. Barley is the lowest producer when it comes to tonnage, but it has it's uses. There was no real secret there other than putting grains in with your clovers. That's like peanut butter and jelly. It just works.

 

[matinc]

SD what is the highest biomass clover then

 

[SD51555]

SD what is the highest biomass clover then

Edible, I'd say balansa.

Less than edible, the sweet clovers.

That's what I've seen in my experience anyway. I had balansa in my road plot that reached over 36" tall.

 

[Swampwalker]

Question for you guys.
I’m in southern Michigan and normally would have the last of my rye broadcasted by the end of September. This year with the lack of rain I still have some left to spread. I realize rye can germinate in pretty cool soil temps however if you broadcast rye and a few days after germinating the temperatures drop below freezing a couple of nights in a row will the rye survive?

 

[Prairie Acres]

Question for you guys.
I’m in southern Michigan and normally would have the last of my rye broadcasted by the end of September. This year with the lack of rain I still have some left to spread. I realize rye can germinate in pretty cool soil temps however if you broadcast rye and a few days after germinating the temperatures drop below freezing a couple of nights in a row will the rye survive?

Southern Wisconsin here...I talked to a guy at the Cooperative earlier this year about how late you can plant winter wheat which would be similar to rye. He said you can plant into November. He said planting that late would reduce yields, no big deal for deer.

Thread on another forum about late planting winter wheat...
Late planting winter wheat

 

[matinc]

Swamped I would broadcast it tomorrow if possible. You have 80 degrees for two days and .5 inch of rain on the way. With more rain Friday ish. Soil temperature will allow it to germinate I have 300 pounds of rye sitting on the surface for two months in west michigan that If the forecast holds true will get 1.5 inches by Friday and I hope that will finally get it to germinate. If not next years rye crop will be bleak

 

[Swampwalker]

Thanks for the replies.
I just broadcast my last bushel. It looks like we may miss tomorrow’s rain but should get some later in the week.
I was wondering if a night long freeze would damage the small “root” that comes out of the germinating seed that is laying on the sour surface. I imagine a planted seed would be somewhat protected by the soil that is covering it.

 

[SD51555]

Thanks for the replies.
I just broadcast my last bushel. It looks like we may miss tomorrow’s rain but should get some later in the week.
I was wondering if a night long freeze would damage the small “root” that comes out of the germinating seed that is laying on the sour surface. I imagine a planted seed would be somewhat protected by the soil that is covering it.

I think it has to get pretty cold to hurt those roots. Cold kill temp on most cereals is 15 degrees for the weakest, and 5 for the strongest. Those roots are full of sugar, and that’s what I think gets them thru the cold spells.


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